Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] DRO Encoders
Posted by
james owens
on 2000-04-07 13:18:46 UTC
As pointed out to me the other day by Jon Elson USDigital do not make a 1000 line encoder disk let alone a 2000, it is 500 lines per rev in quatrature. The next point is the value for Pi. What is yours? When I was at school in the dim and distant past Pi was 22 / 7, which in decimal is 3.142857143 my calculator does not have any digits. What I'm saying is that the normal measure we use for Pi is 3.142 so clearly there is an error here. Then there is the problem of how the disk is mounted on the machine, can you honestly say that you can machine to 0.001" as measured on every micrometer. Your own, yes maybe but if I came alone and measured any piece you made I would probably get a different number. I am not demeaning your skills, what I am saying is that homeshop machinists we do not usually have the very high accuracy measuring equipment that industry can afford. We machine to a fit and use measurements as a guide to achieve that fit.
So what we get when all the errors are added together, with the inexact Pi, the small disk with its error in diameter traveling a long way, in relative terms and all this additive error! A DRO which is harder to impliment than a linear scale.
As to point two. I have a machine that has an X axis that is a little longer than 29".
I've been following the discussion of linear encoders for a DRO. And have a
couple of questions again.....
(1). Why not use rotary encoders? They are very available and cheap. If my
math memory is correct Diameter * Pi = Circumfrence of a circle. So, a .318
diameter wheel gives a linear distance of .9990264786... per rotation. Using
a 1000 count per rev encoder results in a resolution of .0009990264..... If
that's not good enough, use a 2000 counts per rev. That's only another $7 or
so from US Digital. It's not that difficult to mount the rotary encoder on
the non moving base of each axis's slide.
(2) If #1 is not acceptable, why not use some of the el cheapo digital
calipers that have serial port output? Then feed the serial output to a PIC
and let the PIC display the 3 axis values on an LCD.
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So what we get when all the errors are added together, with the inexact Pi, the small disk with its error in diameter traveling a long way, in relative terms and all this additive error! A DRO which is harder to impliment than a linear scale.
As to point two. I have a machine that has an X axis that is a little longer than 29".
I've been following the discussion of linear encoders for a DRO. And have a
couple of questions again.....
(1). Why not use rotary encoders? They are very available and cheap. If my
math memory is correct Diameter * Pi = Circumfrence of a circle. So, a .318
diameter wheel gives a linear distance of .9990264786... per rotation. Using
a 1000 count per rev encoder results in a resolution of .0009990264..... If
that's not good enough, use a 2000 counts per rev. That's only another $7 or
so from US Digital. It's not that difficult to mount the rotary encoder on
the non moving base of each axis's slide.
(2) If #1 is not acceptable, why not use some of the el cheapo digital
calipers that have serial port output? Then feed the serial output to a PIC
and let the PIC display the 3 axis values on an LCD.
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Discussion Thread
Larry Edington
2000-04-07 11:24:17 UTC
DRO Encoders
Tim Barnard
2000-04-07 11:42:02 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] DRO Encoders
james owens
2000-04-07 13:18:46 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] DRO Encoders
D.F.S.
2000-04-07 14:49:40 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] DRO Encoders
William Scalione
2000-04-07 15:04:38 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] DRO Encoders
Richard Gardner
2000-04-07 15:32:52 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] DRO Encoders
D.F.S.
2000-04-07 15:33:51 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Linefeeds.
Jon Elson
2000-04-07 15:58:55 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] DRO Encoders
james owens
2000-04-07 16:02:11 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] DRO Encoders
Bertho Boman
2000-04-08 03:58:31 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Linefeeds.
Bertho Boman
2000-04-08 04:42:56 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Linefeeds.
Bertho Boman
2000-04-08 05:18:12 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Linefeeds.
james owens
2000-04-09 11:15:22 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] DRO Encoders
David A. Forsyth
2000-04-10 02:02:48 UTC
Re: DRO Encoders
Marshall Pharoah
2000-04-10 12:50:39 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] DRO Encoders