Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Is a reduction drive necessary for servo motors?
Posted by
Harvey White
on 2004-01-15 11:03:48 UTC
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 11:20:34 -0700, you wrote:
Servos are DC motors, apply a voltage, and they move and keep on
moving. If you short the rotor out (just two wires here) they will
brake and try to hold position because of the magnetic drag, although
that's not, iirc, the way that they maintain a position.
They have encoders which give a known number of steps/transitions per
revolution. One thing the drive can do is to command the motor to
turn in a particular direction and go X number of steps.
Steppers have multiple coils, and changing the current through these
coils will typically command the motor to align with the new magnetic
field. However, this will move (generally) only one "step". To
simulate motion, the coils are energized in a specific sequence that
forces the motor rotor to "track" those changes.
So the controller is doing different things for each type of motor.
For the servo, it applies a voltage, then counts encoder pulses until
the desired total is met, then stops the motor.
For the stepper, it applies a sequence of voltage changes to the
coils, for the specified number of steps.
Hope that this helps a bit.
Harvey
So obviously, I have not a full understanding.
>Organization: Pico SystemsThat's more like the way a stepper works.
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>I guess I don 't know how a Servo works. I thought that
>it was based on current reversals. Energize it with one
>polarity and moves and stays. Reverse the polarity and
>it moves. I have not been clear on how it determines which
>way to go.
Servos are DC motors, apply a voltage, and they move and keep on
moving. If you short the rotor out (just two wires here) they will
brake and try to hold position because of the magnetic drag, although
that's not, iirc, the way that they maintain a position.
They have encoders which give a known number of steps/transitions per
revolution. One thing the drive can do is to command the motor to
turn in a particular direction and go X number of steps.
Steppers have multiple coils, and changing the current through these
coils will typically command the motor to align with the new magnetic
field. However, this will move (generally) only one "step". To
simulate motion, the coils are energized in a specific sequence that
forces the motor rotor to "track" those changes.
So the controller is doing different things for each type of motor.
For the servo, it applies a voltage, then counts encoder pulses until
the desired total is met, then stops the motor.
For the stepper, it applies a sequence of voltage changes to the
coils, for the specified number of steps.
Hope that this helps a bit.
Harvey
So obviously, I have not a full understanding.
>At one time I experimented with Automoile Alternators as
>stepping motors. As I recall, the stock winding on the stator
>drew too much current and I had them rewound with smaller
>wire and more turns. They were very powerful but also low
>resolution. Don Lancaster wrote and article and there was
>a guy using them to do wood carving. It was a very cheap
>way to get a lot of torque. Due to manufacturing tolerances,
>each step was not exactly the same as the other steps. This
>was no problem when you are making an alternator whose
>requirement is to put out a pulsating DC current.
>
>Bob McKnight
Discussion Thread
ja_erickson
2004-01-10 17:31:46 UTC
e-stop / limit switch help needed
Robert Campbell
2004-01-10 17:44:01 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] e-stop / limit switch help needed
ja_erickson
2004-01-10 18:50:13 UTC
Re: e-stop / limit switch help needed
james_cullins@s...
2004-01-10 20:39:37 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] e-stop / limit switch help needed
Peter Homann
2004-01-14 17:22:26 UTC
Is a reduction drive necessary for servo motors?
JanRwl@A...
2004-01-14 18:50:13 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Is a reduction drive necessary for servo motors?
Bob McKnight
2004-01-14 19:19:08 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Is a reduction drive necessary for servo motors?
Peter Homann
2004-01-14 19:46:30 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Is a reduction drive necessary for servo motors?
Peter Homann
2004-01-14 19:58:59 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Is a reduction drive necessary for servo motors?
JanRwl@A...
2004-01-14 20:02:01 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Is a reduction drive necessary for servo motors?
Peter Homann
2004-01-14 20:25:31 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Is a reduction drive necessary for servo motors?
Jon Elson
2004-01-14 21:23:25 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Is a reduction drive necessary for servo motors?
Jon Elson
2004-01-14 21:29:46 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Is a reduction drive necessary for servo motors?
industrialhobbies
2004-01-14 22:07:52 UTC
Re: Is a reduction drive necessary for servo motors?
Bob McKnight
2004-01-15 10:17:39 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Is a reduction drive necessary for servo motors?
Harvey White
2004-01-15 11:03:48 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Is a reduction drive necessary for servo motors?
Jon Elson
2004-01-15 21:37:42 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Is a reduction drive necessary for servo motors?
Bob McKnight
2004-01-15 21:59:38 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Is a reduction drive necessary for servo motors?
ballendo
2004-01-16 09:04:48 UTC
Stepper vs. servo resolution was Re: Is a reduction drive nec
ballendo
2004-01-16 09:09:08 UTC
two types of servos was Re: Is a reduction...
Peter Homann
2004-01-16 16:32:14 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Is a reduction drive necessary for servo motors?
Bob McKnight
2004-01-17 07:34:04 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] two types of servos was Re: Is a reduction...