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Re: LARGE Gantry table: Geckos on large servos.

Posted by brunoian1127
on 2004-03-10 09:32:50 UTC
Larkin makes a cobra drive that does 16 amps.
This may help.


--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, Kim Lux <lux@d...> wrote:
> I don't know if a Gecko will run a really large servo motor.
>
> We've got a 3HP servo motor, depowered by running at 80V, on a
large
> table of a special machine. We recently tested it with a Gecko
320 and
> blew it up. It would operate fine at lower speeds, but the drive
ran
> warm. At higher speeds, the drive failed. It seemed to have
problems
> getting the damping/gain correct for such a large motor.
>
> We sent the drive back to Gecko. They looked at it but have not
> commented on what exactly caused it to fail.
>
> I suspect that the motor would draw more than the rated max drive
> current (ie 20Amps) during acceleration.
>
> Kim
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 2004-03-09 at 17:03, Leslie M. Watts wrote:
> > Heh. Confused Chris? My friend Bob Campbell said a Gecko would
> > handle it. I said it would need something bigger.
> >
> > To put things in perspective my 1000 lb gantry IS run by a Copley
> > 412 which is about the same as a Gecko in power. So Bob is
absolutely
> > correct for the weight you asked about.
> >
> > I just think that a 20 ft gantry will be much more massive than
my
> > system. Things tend to go up in mass as the cube of length for
equivalent
> > stiffness. Sometimes even more. A finite element structure
analysis
> > can define this in the design stage.
> >
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robert Campbell [mailto:bob@c...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 6:09 PM
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> > Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] LARGE Gantry table
> >
> >
> > Chris,
> >
> > You will defiantly need a servo system. I would think that a
Gecko drive
> > would do it.
> >
> > You may want to post on the Gecko drive list.
> >
> >
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "cutthroatplasmaco" <cutthroatplasmaco@y...>
> > To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 3:52 PM
> > Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] LARGE Gantry table
> >
> >
> > > Can someone point me in the direction of suppliers for
motors/drives
> > > for LARGE gantry machines... I'm talking 20'x40' cutting area.
Off
> > > the top of my head, I'm guessing the gantry might way a half
ton or
> > > more. I'm very familiar with smaller steppers/servos, I just
don't
> > > quite understand where/what route you take when talking about
large
> > > machines that need significant torque to make a 1000lb gantry
change
> > > directions on a dime. It seems you need an ac servo that would
run
> > > off of signicantly more power than a gecko or similar can
provide.
> > > Any help/links would be appreciated.
> > > Thanks,
> > > Chris
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Discussion Thread

cutthroatplasmaco 2004-03-09 13:52:57 UTC LARGE Gantry table Robert Campbell 2004-03-09 15:09:44 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] LARGE Gantry table Leslie M. Watts 2004-03-09 15:19:43 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] LARGE Gantry table Leslie M. Watts 2004-03-09 16:04:46 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] LARGE Gantry table Jon Elson 2004-03-09 20:17:11 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] LARGE Gantry table Doug Fortune 2004-03-09 21:54:31 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] LARGE Gantry table Elliot Burke 2004-03-10 08:34:50 UTC re:RE: LARGE Gantry table Kim Lux 2004-03-10 09:22:37 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] LARGE Gantry table: Geckos on large servos. brunoian1127 2004-03-10 09:32:50 UTC Re: LARGE Gantry table: Geckos on large servos. Kim Lux 2004-03-10 10:08:29 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: LARGE Gantry table: Geckos on large servos. Lindsay 2004-03-10 10:08:31 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] re:RE: LARGE Gantry table Jon Elson 2004-03-10 10:52:46 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] LARGE Gantry table: Geckos on large servos. Jon Elson 2004-03-10 10:54:45 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] LARGE Gantry table: Geckos on large servos. Kim Lux 2004-03-10 12:14:04 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] LARGE Gantry table: Geckos on large servos. Kim Lux 2004-03-10 12:14:39 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] LARGE Gantry table: Geckos on large servos. Elliot Burke 2004-03-10 16:16:23 UTC re:Re: re:RE: LARGE Gantry table billbryden 2004-03-10 21:16:54 UTC re:Re: re:RE: LARGE Gantry table Jon Elson 2004-03-10 21:29:53 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] LARGE Gantry table: Geckos on large servos. Jon Elson 2004-03-10 21:44:45 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] LARGE Gantry table: Geckos on large servos. ballendo 2004-03-10 23:02:49 UTC Re: LARGE Gantry table ballendo 2004-03-11 09:10:30 UTC Re: re:RE: LARGE Gantry table Leslie M. Watts 2004-03-11 11:34:34 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] re:Re: re:RE: LARGE Gantry table Peter Reilley 2004-03-11 12:33:01 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] LARGE Gantry table: Geckos on large servos. Mariss Freimanis 2004-03-11 12:51:43 UTC Re: LARGE Gantry table: Geckos on large servos. Kim Lux 2004-03-11 13:41:24 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] LARGE Gantry table: Geckos on large servos. Jon Elson 2004-03-11 19:32:43 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] LARGE Gantry table: Geckos on large servos. Peter Reilley 2004-03-11 22:02:32 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: LARGE Gantry table: Geckos on large servos.