Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: noob laser question
Posted by
Jon Elson
on 2008-01-19 10:46:42 UTC
Cristi wrote:
oscilloscope, a magnet moonted on each bearing and a coil of
wire to pick up the motion of the magnets. It also has some
optical system to shine a spot of light on the shaft and sense
a black dot there as an index mark. This mark triggers the scope.
You get the thing spinning, and raise the speed until the
vibration becomes strong enough to make a clear wave on the
scope. If both traces of the scope are roughly equal in
magnitude and in phase, then you have a "static imbalance", ie.
the unbalanced weight is roughly between the bearings. If the
traces are in phase but one is much larger, then the excess
weight is nearer on bearing. If they are out of phase, you
have a dipole, with the weights on opposite sides rotationally.
Depending on how the thing is set up, you have to learn how to
interpret the scope traces as to where to remove metal. You do
this with a Dremel or similar tool, and just grind off a little
material at the periphery, then spin it again.
Jon
> Hi guys,Sure. The traditional "electronic balancer" uses a dual-trace
>
> thank you for your answers, my question - can I use a lathe cut tool
> to make this balance ( so I can avoid buying and using that laser )? I
> intend to balance the disc ( which has a shaft in the center ) by
> suspending it on a ball bearing connected with 3 springs at 120 grads
> perpendicular on the axis of rotation. I hope this is a correct way to
> balance it... the disc should go up to 30000 rpm - can I do it without
> the laser?
oscilloscope, a magnet moonted on each bearing and a coil of
wire to pick up the motion of the magnets. It also has some
optical system to shine a spot of light on the shaft and sense
a black dot there as an index mark. This mark triggers the scope.
You get the thing spinning, and raise the speed until the
vibration becomes strong enough to make a clear wave on the
scope. If both traces of the scope are roughly equal in
magnitude and in phase, then you have a "static imbalance", ie.
the unbalanced weight is roughly between the bearings. If the
traces are in phase but one is much larger, then the excess
weight is nearer on bearing. If they are out of phase, you
have a dipole, with the weights on opposite sides rotationally.
Depending on how the thing is set up, you have to learn how to
interpret the scope traces as to where to remove metal. You do
this with a Dremel or similar tool, and just grind off a little
material at the periphery, then spin it again.
Jon
Discussion Thread
Cristi
2008-01-18 03:52:35 UTC
noob laser question
R Wink
2008-01-18 04:35:29 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] noob laser question
NEVILLE WEBSTER
2008-01-18 10:17:39 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] noob laser question
R Wink
2008-01-18 15:06:37 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] noob laser question
Brandon LaCava
2008-01-18 15:06:58 UTC
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Bob Muse
2008-01-18 17:09:07 UTC
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Graham Stabler
2008-01-18 17:41:12 UTC
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Graham Stabler
2008-01-18 17:43:10 UTC
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Cristi
2008-01-19 01:54:14 UTC
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Cristi
2008-01-19 02:14:53 UTC
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hannu
2008-01-19 03:06:01 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: noob laser question
Cristi
2008-01-19 03:18:00 UTC
Re: noob laser question
Peter Reilley
2008-01-19 05:29:41 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: noob laser question
optics22000
2008-01-19 08:56:43 UTC
Re: noob laser question
carbonsteelsam
2008-01-19 09:49:23 UTC
Re: noob laser question
Jon Elson
2008-01-19 10:46:42 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: noob laser question
Jon Elson
2008-01-19 10:52:32 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: noob laser question
Jon Elson
2008-01-19 10:56:54 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: noob laser question
Jon Elson
2008-01-19 11:11:01 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: noob laser question
Cristi
2008-01-19 14:00:10 UTC
Re: noob laser question
Steve Blackmore
2008-01-19 14:20:55 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: noob laser question
Jon Elson
2008-01-19 21:39:17 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: noob laser question
Dave Halliday
2008-01-19 21:51:40 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: noob laser question
Dave Halliday
2008-01-19 22:00:58 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: noob laser question
Cristi
2008-01-19 23:15:55 UTC
Re: noob laser question
David LeVine
2008-01-20 12:21:50 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Disc balance
Jon Elson
2008-01-20 12:34:55 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: noob laser question
Steve Blackmore
2008-01-20 17:22:13 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Disc balance
g_smith47
2008-01-20 20:42:45 UTC
Re: noob laser question
Joe Macmurchie
2008-01-20 20:44:01 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Disc balance
Steve Blackmore
2008-01-21 00:16:42 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Disc balance
Cristi
2008-01-21 00:33:52 UTC
Re: noob laser question
Paul Kelly
2008-01-21 04:04:08 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Disc balance
Jon Elson
2008-01-21 11:22:10 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: noob laser question
Cristi
2008-01-21 11:40:11 UTC
Re: noob laser question
Jon Elson
2008-01-21 20:12:21 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: noob laser question