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Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] How do you compare steppers to servos

Posted by Peter Homann
on 2011-02-26 18:39:06 UTC
Hi,

Not only that, but the integral component of the control loop will also
increase the correction force as the error persists over time.

Cheers,

Peter

On 27/02/2011 1:03 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
> Les Newell wrote:
>>
>>> A servo, if you put an arm on it, is probably less capable of holding an
>>> exact position, as the encoder would sense motion and try to drive in
>>> the opposite direction to correct it, but it would be confused as to how
>>> MUCH to drive it.
>>>
>>
>> Not really. The drive system knows that if the motor is only one encoder
>> count out, it probably doesn't need to apply much torque to return to
>> center, whereas if you are lots of encoder counts out then you need to
>> apply more power. Integral helps overcome steady state loads.
>>
>>
> Yes, exactly. The error (commanded position minus actual position) is
> measured perhaps
> a thousand times a second and the amount of effort to restore the
> position to zero error
> is sent to the drive. Increasing error commands increasing torque,
> decreasing error commands
> less torque. A properly tuned servo will strongly resist deflections
> from commanded position,
> and can be so stiff you'd think there's a brake on the motor. The
> tuning of the servo control loop
> is so that it WON'T be "confused", but will always apply a controlled
> and optimum amount of
> torque to resist any outside forces.
>
> Jon
>
>
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