Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re:Bobcad 17

I'll have to agree on some of your points there John. Would you care to
tell me what packages you use and where to check them out so I can
investigate them? If you don't want to post this,could you please can send
them to me at Smoke@....

Thanks, Smoke

-----Original Message-----
From: John Stevenson <machines@...>
To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@egroups.com <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@egroups.com>
Date: Monday, December 04, 2000 6:34 AM
Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re:Bobcad 17

>I've read the previous posts with interest.
>By far the most interesting is Fred Smiths response. He makes some good
>points even though it's a thinly disguised sales pitch for Vector.Not
>knocking Fred as he has done a lot to help this group.
>What was the start of this discussion though was the CAD side and comparing
>it to another CAD system. This I don't feel is fair as Bobcad and Vector
>are CAD - CAM programs after all. I know that vector has spun the CAD side
>off to be a stand alone but it's roots are still with CAD - CAM.
>From using a few of these programs, either the full version or demo's I
>have come to the conclusion than NONE of the CAD - CAM packages has a
>decent CAD side.
>They all seem clunky, not user friendly and long winded.
>They all seem to be the menu driven type - click this, type in a box your
>result then do it all over again as there is no repeat.
>I run two CAD/CAM programs, no names, it's not a sales pitch and I don't
>use either for doing the CAD profiles I use a dedicated CAD program and
>bring in as a DXF file then process this in the CAM package.
>On a simple drawing I never use the menu bar at all but type in on the
>command line the commands I need as shortcuts. To draw a slot for instance
>I would type in SL [ shortcut for Slot ], 10 [ Width ], 30 [ Length ] and
>then place it on the drawing using one of the F keys as a snap point - job
>done.
>I do a lot of drawings, every machine part we make needs a drawing even if
>it never see's a CNC machine. The cost of these drawings has to be kept in
>house and is part and parcel of the total machine cost. It can't be passed
>on to a customer. It therefore goes without saying that any time saved is
>also money saved.
>There is no way using any of the CAD - CAM programs I have tried that I
>could do drawings as fast as the way I do now.
>Going back to the earlier posts about selecting multiple entities a decent
>CAD package can select by each, window, layer, colour, line style, fill
>style, prior, all, certain entities like all the circles OR any combination
>of these like window but not the green lines on layer 7.
>--
>
>Regards,
>John Stevenson
>Nottingham, England
>
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