Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Subject: Re: Re: flashcut 9000 series mill - Question from Marcus

Marcus,

Yes, I've done a couple of those too - They do make up into nice machines -
Have also done one RF-45 which is also a good machine -

Roland

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marcus & Eva" <implmex@...>
To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Subject: Re: Re: flashcut 9000 series mill -
Question from Marcus


> Hi Roland:
> Sounds like you've got quite a job turning these mill drills into quality
> tools.
> I have to wonder though...is this the best platform out there from which
to
> begin?
> I'd have thought that with all the problems you describe, it'd be almost
> better to start from scratch.
> There's a 3/4 Bridgeport sized kneemill out there that I've waxed
eloquently
> on in the past.
> Are you familiar with it?
> I've often thought it would make a decent CNC kneemill because it has a
bit
> of capacity, but the knee is still reasonably lightweight.
> It's Taiwanese iron, but the one I had was well-made.
> Cheers
>
> Marcus
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roland Friestad" <cardinal.eng@...>
> To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 5:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Subject: Re: Re: flashcut 9000 series
mill -
> Question from Marcus
>
>
> > Marcus,
> >
> > The larger Flashcut machine is based on the Grizzly G1006 benchtop
> > mill/drill - The retrofit of the X and Y axes is nearly identical to
that
> > published in HSM for the G1005 mill/drill with the exception of the
> addition
> > of a 2" extension block to the front of the Y axis and the different
> lengths
> > of the threaded ball screw stock - This extension block restores the Y
> axis
> > travel otherwise lost by the length of the ball nuts - Please note that
> > there is a lot of "specmanship" that goes on between the importers of
> these
> > machines and that the published axis travels are in many cases way out
of
> > line with reality - The same goes for horsepower - If anybody thinks
that
> > they can actually absorb 1-1/2 or 2 hp effectively in the spindle of a
> > mill/drill they woefully ignorant of the reality of machining
operations -
> >
> > The Z-axis retrofit of the G1006 is different from that of the G1005
> because
> > I put the motor on the right side of the head instead of the left side -
> > There were several reasons for this but probably the most salient was
the
> > ability to use as many common parts from the G1005 retrofit as
practical -
> >
> > As mentioned the G1006 detailed drawings will be published also in the
HSM
> > column - They are currently not in a publishable form being largely
> > un-dimensioned but scale AutoCAD drawings or hand written notes so I
> cannot
> > realistically furnish them to anyone just now -
> >
> > One of the challenges of doing these retrofits is attempting to design
> > components that will fit as many of the mill/drills as possible - Even
> when
> > you buy the same model number from the same source (As G1006 from
Grizzly,
> > for instance) there are areas that I swear are made with a hand drill
and
> a
> > body grinder - Some of the tapped holes are so crooked that they have to
> > have been done "offhand" - I try to keep a list of dimensions for about
10
> > or 20 machines and then review them and redesign the components as
> required
> > to try to make them fit the range of variation - Only then can I make
> > components up in "batches" of 10 or 20 sets and possibly offer kits - Up
> to
> > that time everything is done on a "one off" basis - I've done about 10
of
> > the G1006 machines now and have enough data to finalize the components -
> >
> > Don't know if this answers your questions or not -
> >
> > Roland Friestad
> > cardinal.eng@...
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Marcus & Eva" <implmex@...>
> > To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 9:56 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Subject: Re: Re: flashcut 9000 series
> mill -
> > Question from Marcus
> >
> >
> > > Hi Roland:
> > > Could you tell us a bit more about the large Flashcut machine??
> > > It seems to have sparked a fair number of comments on this list but no
> one
> > > seems to know a lot about it.
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Marcus
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Roland Friestad" <cardinal.eng@...>
> > > To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 4:31 AM
> > > Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Subject: Re: Re: flashcut 9000 series
mill -
> > > Question from Marcus
> > >
> > >
> > > > Marcus,
> > > >
> > > > Yes, I do this kind of work - As a matter of fact I build the larger
> > > Flashcut machines for them (as well as those I sell under the Cardinal
> > > Engineering name and a couple of other private labels) - And I also
> > publish
> > > the full plans for doing it yourself in HOME SHOP MACHINIST magazine
> with
> > > sources - Some folks want to do their own and some folks want to pay
> > someone
> > > else to do it and make chips instead - I've always felt that the nice
> > thing
> > > about this is that you can choose your own approach and either one is
> just
> > > as "legitimate" - The plans for the Grizzly G1005 retrofit are
currently
> > > being published in HSM in about 4 successive issues - The Grizzly
G1006
> > will
> > > follow along with detailed info on getting those "dead" Bridgeport
CNC's
> > > running again
> > > >
> > > > Been doing some work on a special waterjet cutting machine for balsa
> and
> > > plywood model airplane parts because I really hate the charred edges
> > > produced by the lasers - Am currently using a single nozzle but am
> making
> > a
> > > special table with a 6 nozzle cutting head for it which should make
the
> > > system commercially viable - Can furnish samples to those who might be
> > > interested
> > > >
> > > > Have a new e-mail address and have had a hard time posting back into
> the
> > > group - That coupled with the fact that I've been traveling for the
last
> 6
> > > weeks or so - new address is cardinal.eng@... - old one was -
> > > cardinal.eng@... which should still work for a while
> > > >
> > > > Roland Friestad (Friestad is the Norwegian spelling - Friestadt is
> the
> > > German)
> > > >
> > > > ****************
> > > > Re: Message: 17 - Digest 2149
> > > > Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 09:16:20 -0800
> > > > From: "Marcus & Eva" <implmex@...>
> > > > Subject: Re: Re: flashcut 9000 series mill
> > > >
> > > > Hi all:
> > > > Doesn't Roland Friestadt (sp?) (Cardinal Engineering) do this
> kind
> > of
> > > > retrofit work??
> > > > Roland, are you out there...Comments??
> > > > Cheers
> > > >
> > > > Marcus
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
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> > > > Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: flashcut 9000 series mill
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