Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Re: Power supply question.....
Posted by
Jon Elson
on 2002-05-04 22:24:03 UTC
JanRwl@... wrote:
full load of 30 A, the ripple current could be somewhere in the 30 A RMS range,
in the form of a nearly continuous 30 A DC drain, with short pulses of about
150 A during the charging cycle. Transformer leakage inductance and series
resistance would limit the peak charging current. But, a very rough guess might
be about 50 A average. If the cap had an ESR of .1 Ohm, that would be
50^2 * .1 = 250 W ! So, you must have had a good cap if this power supply was
really delivering 30 Amps continuous. the ripple current is much less when the
power supply is at partial load.
Jon
> In a message dated 04-May-02 02:29:48 Central Daylight Time,This one could easily be one of those cases. Assuming it really was delivering
> mariss92705@... writes:
>
> >
> > It would be a wonderful world if capacitors were capacitors,
> > resistors were resistors and inductors were, well, inductors.
> >
> > In a perfect world they are, but not in this one.
> >
> > The reality is capacitors have a little bit of resistance and
> > inductance, rresistors have a little bit of capacitance and
> > inductance, inductors have.. you see where I'm going with this.
>
> Guess, then, I simply haven't had to deal with AMPERES through capacitors. I
> guess that largest caps/supply-amps I have ever built was, what, 68,000 uF x
> 30 amp? What kinda currents from the bridge and how large a cap. would one
> be talking about for "capacitor heat-dissipation" to become a considerable
> factor?
full load of 30 A, the ripple current could be somewhere in the 30 A RMS range,
in the form of a nearly continuous 30 A DC drain, with short pulses of about
150 A during the charging cycle. Transformer leakage inductance and series
resistance would limit the peak charging current. But, a very rough guess might
be about 50 A average. If the cap had an ESR of .1 Ohm, that would be
50^2 * .1 = 250 W ! So, you must have had a good cap if this power supply was
really delivering 30 Amps continuous. the ripple current is much less when the
power supply is at partial load.
Jon
Discussion Thread
RC
2002-04-22 03:04:20 UTC
Power supply question.....
steveggca
2002-04-22 04:12:47 UTC
Re: Power supply question.....
Brian
2002-04-22 05:39:05 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Power supply question.....
scott wilson
2002-04-22 06:14:24 UTC
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JanRwl@A...
2002-04-22 19:15:52 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Power supply question.....
RC
2002-04-23 02:57:40 UTC
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dave_ace_me
2002-04-23 07:23:13 UTC
Cap voltage rating (was Re: Power supply question.....
scott wilson
2002-04-23 07:53:58 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Cap voltage rating (was Re: Power supply question.....
scott wilson
2002-04-23 08:00:38 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Cap voltage rating (was Re: Power supply question.....
Jon Elson
2002-04-23 10:42:01 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Cap voltage rating (was Re: Power supply question.....
beer@s...
2002-04-23 11:33:35 UTC
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scott wilson
2002-04-23 12:40:22 UTC
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Tim Goldstein
2002-04-23 13:02:01 UTC
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Raymond Heckert
2002-04-23 13:12:20 UTC
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studleylee
2002-04-23 13:20:31 UTC
Re: Power supply question.....A Good Cap info link
scott wilson
2002-04-23 13:38:27 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Power supply question.....A Good Cap info link
scott wilson
2002-04-23 13:54:34 UTC
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JanRwl@A...
2002-04-23 20:37:27 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Power supply question.....
Jon Elson
2002-04-23 23:01:42 UTC
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Jon Elson
2002-04-23 23:07:26 UTC
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batwings@i...
2002-04-24 05:12:06 UTC
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beer@s...
2002-04-24 13:26:32 UTC
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dave_ace_me
2002-04-24 13:49:33 UTC
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RC
2002-04-24 13:52:09 UTC
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Raymond Heckert
2002-04-24 20:47:54 UTC
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Raymond Heckert
2002-04-24 20:48:01 UTC
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ballendo
2002-04-26 01:05:19 UTC
Technical help was Cap voltage rating (was Re: Power supply question.....
ballendo
2002-04-26 01:12:56 UTC
conflicting answers? was Re: Power supply question.....A Good Cap info link
Jon Elson
2002-05-02 22:14:36 UTC
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scott wilson
2002-05-03 04:38:37 UTC
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Jon Elson
2002-05-03 10:15:39 UTC
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scott wilson
2002-05-03 10:23:29 UTC
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JanRwl@A...
2002-05-03 20:36:58 UTC
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Jon Elson
2002-05-03 23:01:48 UTC
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mariss92705
2002-05-04 00:28:35 UTC
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JanRwl@A...
2002-05-04 09:03:45 UTC
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Tim Goldstein
2002-05-04 09:51:29 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Re: Power supply question.....
Jon Elson
2002-05-04 22:24:03 UTC
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