Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Stepper Motor and Cable Shielding. Any tips?
Posted by
Myron Cherry
on 2002-07-22 20:12:23 UTC
I had a similar problem with Mauch's 5A board and DeskNC. I have changed to
TurboCNC and adjusted the pulse width to get the best repeatibility. It
tracks identically with the Shooting Star DRO and I am thrilled with that.
TurboCNC is free from www.dakeng.com.
Good luck.
Myron
TurboCNC and adjusted the pulse width to get the best repeatibility. It
tracks identically with the Shooting Star DRO and I am thrilled with that.
TurboCNC is free from www.dakeng.com.
Good luck.
Myron
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter" <prenolds@...>
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Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Stepper Motor and Cable Shielding. Any tips?
> Tom,
>
> One thing you might test is running VERY low accelerations. I have high
> quality Sanyo-Denki NEMA42 steppers driven by G210 Geckos on my mill and
> have consistently lost steps on long 3D programs with lots of contours
> etc. I've tried microstepping, no micropstepping, long step pulses,
> short step pulses etc. same problem. All my cables are shielded, things
> are grounded etc. etc. still problems. I'm using Flashcut, but I also
> tried Indexer LPT and G-Code Controller with the same result so I know
> it isn't my controller.
>
> I recently tried running extremely low accelerations and the problem
> almost completely went away. I still don'tunderstand why I'm losing
> steps but as a result of my last test, I am currently in the process of
> going from open loop steppers to closed loop servos (purchased off eBay)
> and am (extremely) hopeful that this change will solve my problems. I
> will post the results of my tests.
>
> The only other thing I might suggest you check is the power supply
> wiring. If your PSU can't provide the peak currents your controller and
> motor is drawing - that could also be a factor. Low current = low torque.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Cheers, Peter
>
>
> kaynrc wrote:
>
> > In case you follow more groups than just this, I have also posted
> > this in the Master5 group, with few replies thus far.
> >
> > I have a semi-sick stepper system, with Dan Mauch's 5 amp boards and
> > Master5 as the software so far. (I'd like to stay with that one). The
> > motors are new, 521 oz-inch also from Camtronics.
> >
> > I lost lots of steps on a bench test, whether I add resistance to the
> > motor shafts or not (by hand). So I am losing steps somewhere, no
> > matter how I adjust the feedrates or pulses per inch etc.
> >
> > I'm starting to suspect RFI or EMI is important and hurting my
> > system, even if there are other causes on top of that.
> >
> > Can someone point out any shielding tips with respect to:
> >
> > 1. The parallel port cable (I have already bought some shielded-
> > twisted paired wires, so I'll be making a cable, but what about
> > grounding? Ground at one end only, and to the computer casing????)
> >
> > 2. The motors. Do they give off a hailstorm of RFI from the wires?
> >
> > 3. The wires from the breakout board to driver boards. Shield these??
> >
> > 4. Ground my case which holds the 3 drivers? Grounded also to the PC
> > casing??
> >
> > 5. Anything I may have missed or gotten totally wrong, feel free to
> > add in. I have, by the way, done a search on shielding in this and
> > other groups, and gotten a good beginning picture. But I don't feel
> > that I have the full picture yet. OK, I'm slow !
> >
> > Thanks for any feedback. Tom.
> >
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Discussion Thread
kaynrc
2002-07-22 07:53:17 UTC
Stepper Motor and Cable Shielding. Any tips?
Peter
2002-07-22 09:12:23 UTC
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Peter Seddon
2002-07-22 10:03:40 UTC
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Myron Cherry
2002-07-22 20:12:23 UTC
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Peter Homann
2002-07-22 20:26:27 UTC
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2002-07-23 15:02:13 UTC
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2002-07-24 13:51:37 UTC
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Peter Homann
2002-07-24 16:03:07 UTC
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Jon Elson
2002-07-24 21:28:32 UTC
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2002-07-25 11:29:37 UTC
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2002-07-25 11:29:38 UTC
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2002-07-25 14:17:09 UTC
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2002-07-25 16:13:10 UTC
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2002-07-25 20:24:11 UTC
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2002-07-26 06:39:03 UTC
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