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Re: Pendant Design, was - Spindle Motor Control?

on 2003-03-04 12:16:34 UTC
Hi Chris, thanks for the input. Point well taken regarding the estop.
My servo controllers all have power interupting red buttons and input
for remote stop button(s).
http://www.members.shaw.ca/axxus4/AS300D40_2.jpg
http://www.members.shaw.ca/axxus4/as300mfront.jpg

I will be putting them on my updated web site as soon as I catch up a bit.
Interesting thoughts on the membrane option and switch labels as well.
I am still considering options at this point.
Dean
Axxus Technologies


> I guess that IF it is a "programmable" device, then "labeling" buttons
> could be somewhat limiting.
> I like the approach taken by the X-Keys ( or Y-Keys ) by PI
engineerings
> keyboard in that the keycaps came off in order to place under them
> exactly what you want. You can look in the CCED files section and
see an
> old layout I did for Flashcut V1 in a .pdf file for their double layer
> keypad. It does not take very long to do a nice color print of exactly
> what one wants for buttons in Corel Draw, cut them out with an exacto
> knife, then place them under the clear key caps. THIS is the best
option
> as it will not limit anyone or any software, but I understand the
desire
> for a membrane.....
>
> Then again, the membrane on a particular Multicam head I am familiar
> with is absolutely shot after 5 years of use......
>
> My complaint with the off the shelf X-Keys was the switch "feedback"...
> not a strong enough "click"..
>
> > What else would be
> >useful. I am thinking that the pendant will have room for about 12
> >functions and Estop.
> >
> I used to try to get every possible function I could into the X-keys
> box, yet now, looking at redoing mine for Flashcut, I'll shoot for only
> the necessary items. After all, I found out that the pendant did not
end
> up in my hand all the time anyhow. It is most used for machine or Job
> setup, and the moments right after starting the job. Then it gets set
> back in its holder while the job runs.
>
> Homing, Setting Zero, Jogging ( at all available rates), Setting Part
> Zero, Move to a reference point ( like machine zero or toolchange
> location), Start Job, and finally the "ooops" Feedhold, and Reset
option.
>
> The "E-Stop" concept on it is nice, but probably best a "cover" for
> liabilities anyhow.
>
> I think it would be a shame if a person "learned" to rely on his
> pendants E-Stop" rather than on the ONE Really BIG red Kill button he
> SHOULD have ! One might get a little too friendly with the pendant
> E-Stop, so that when a real emergency arrives, he is fumbling for a
much
> less accessable button than he should be. Also, the Real E-Stop should
> be cutting power to the drives and spindles, not just halting the
> software. So, it has some limitations as a USB E-Stop.
>
> I learned something once about E-Stops.... Do NOT put your ONLY one on
> or even too near to the machine. Put an E-Stop by a door exiting the
> room, or on a pole 15 feet away in a shop scenario. Let it Disengage a
> contactor feeding that machine. I had a fellow start a toolpath, but
> forgot to remove his dial indicator and positioning arm from the
> spindle. The vibration was unbelievable, and the parts flying off were
> deadly. Guess where the E-Stop was ?? NOT where anyone wanted to go to
> get it shut down ! As everyone in the whole place was laying flat on
the
> floor dodging flying parts, I was forced to head for the Main power
> panel. Good thing I knew which breaker it was ! I don't need to tell
you
> that was the "Last Word" from our *Last Word* Indicator.
>
> So, I could do without the E-stop on the pendant... a feedhold is
> plenty. E-Stops should be BIG red locking buttons that disconnect
Power.
> I'll keep my second E-Stop mounted right by the doorway so I can nail
> that bugger whan I am headed out in an unexpected hurry.
>
> Chris Luebke
> DATA-CUT

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