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Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] RF45s and clones: DON'T.

Posted by ccq@x...
on 2003-10-20 08:19:04 UTC
Sounds like a counter weight might help.....

Bill

On Mon Oct 20 07:31:01 2003 Kim Lux wrote:

>We've CNC'd an RF45 clone (Grizzly G0519) and are quite disappointed
>with it. The CNCing works fine. The problem is the rigidity of the
>head when milling with significant cuts. The head on these mills hangs
>on the Z axis way with a short (8") gib. The head is fairly heavy, ie
>150 pounds. That whole weight is levered off of the short gib. The
>result is significant head flex when machining parts.
>
>We've put a dial indicator between the head and the table. We can
>induce 10 or 20 though of movement between the two by pulling on the
>head. By contrast, we cannot induce any movement on a Bridgeport clone,
>which is obviously a turret mill. This measurement was done with the
>knee unlocked. A mini Bridgeport clone might be twice the price of an
>RF45/clone, but it is 3x the machine an RF45 is.
>
>We will be keeping our RF45 clone. We'll use it for light duty
>machining operations. We are in the process of CNCing our Bridgeport
>clone, by motorizing the knee. I've got the Z axis drive done.
>
>BTW: if you CNC your RF45, I highly recommend using 3/4" ballscrews for
>the X and Y axes.
>
>Kim
>
>
>On Sat, 2003-10-18 at 22:38, Thomas E. Jones wrote:
>> Hello:
>>
>> I'm CNC'ing my RF-45, and starting with the ball screws.
>>
>> It seems most are using the 0.631 ball-diameter (0.615) size
>> screws from McMaster Carr or Reid Tool. These nuts are under
>> $25.00 each, and the screws are cheap. The next size
>> (3/4 inch or so) is more than twice the cost.
>>
>> Is this really big enough? My ACME screws that came with
>> it are about 7/8 (or 1", I'm not certain.) I've heard the
>> controversy saying that these thin screws are only good
>> for very short shafts (like lathe z-axis) but not only are
>> larger more expensive, but they don't fit in the allowed
>> space well.
>>
>> Does anyone with "experience" have comments. I know, in a
>> perfect world, I'd aim for 1" ball screws.
>>
>> Also, is there any good online source for single-quantity
>> ballscrews and nuts other than the two above sources? I
>> like web sites that actually have prices, and will sell
>> without a minimum quantity.
>>
>> - tj.
>>

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Thomas E. Jones 2003-10-18 21:38:05 UTC Ballscrews on an RF-45... JanRwl@A... 2003-10-18 22:48:59 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Ballscrews on an RF-45... jmorrphd2 2003-10-19 04:33:47 UTC Re: Ballscrews on an RF-45... John Johnson 2003-10-19 17:03:23 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Ballscrews on an RF-45... Kim Lux 2003-10-20 07:27:04 UTC RF45s and clones: DON'T. ccq@x... 2003-10-20 08:19:04 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] RF45s and clones: DON'T. Kim Lux 2003-10-20 08:23:43 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] RF45s and clones: DON'T. Jerry Kimberlin 2003-10-20 09:26:07 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] RF45s and clones: DON'T. Kim Lux 2003-10-20 09:38:45 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] RF45s and clones: DON'T. Thomas Powell 2003-10-20 13:04:11 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] RF45s and clones: DON'T. Kim Lux 2003-10-20 14:12:15 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] RF45s and clones: DON'T. Jerry Kimberlin 2003-10-20 14:25:42 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] RF45s and clones: DON'T. Kim Lux 2003-10-20 14:52:33 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] RF45s and clones: DON'T. vavaroutsos 2003-10-20 16:39:13 UTC Re: RF45s and clones: DON'T. Marcus and Eva 2003-10-20 18:51:47 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: RF45s and clones: DON'T. jmorrphd2 2003-10-20 19:12:26 UTC Re: RF45s and clones: DON'T get a TM-1 Thomas Powell 2003-10-21 01:06:05 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] RF45s and clones: DON'T. Jon Elson 2003-10-21 10:52:45 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] RF45s and clones: DON'T. Kim Lux 2003-10-21 11:16:23 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] RF45s and clones: DON'T. My contributions... Kim Lux 2003-10-21 11:32:16 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] RF45s and clones: DON'T. My contributions... David A. Frantz 2003-10-21 12:03:30 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] RF45s and clones: DON'T. Bill Kichman 2003-10-21 12:17:13 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] RF45s and clones: DON'T. My contributions... Tim Goldstein 2003-10-21 14:24:57 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Off Topic : RF45s and clones: DON'T. My contributions... Jon Elson 2003-10-21 22:33:18 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] RF45s and clones: DON'T. My contributions... Kim Lux 2003-10-22 08:17:56 UTC CNC Threading question for Jon... Jon Elson 2003-10-22 10:31:51 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] CNC Threading question for Jon... Kim Lux 2003-10-22 12:13:06 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] CNC Threading question for Jon...