Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Commercial vs. hobby controls was Re: Bridgeport CNC retrofit rec...
Posted by
Kim Lux
on 2003-12-17 06:38:14 UTC
One more thing: yes it is a lot of work to do the programming, but once
it is done you have it forever. I probably spent 80 hours doing mods,
testing, etc. I've also cut our one-off machining time to nothing.
Every time we machine a one off part we have an hour or two or three.
Every machine we build from now on will use this software with these
updated features. The payoff for doing this work is really good.
Kim
it is done you have it forever. I probably spent 80 hours doing mods,
testing, etc. I've also cut our one-off machining time to nothing.
Every time we machine a one off part we have an hour or two or three.
Every machine we build from now on will use this software with these
updated features. The payoff for doing this work is really good.
Kim
On Wed, 2003-12-17 at 03:01, ballendo@... wrote:
> Kim,
>
> Many great points. BUT...
>
> How many of them stand up without YOU in the equation???
>
> In other words, how many people do you think could do the pascal
> programming you have done to make your version of TCNC? And of those
> who CAN program pascal, how many would have the time and inclination
> to help someone who knows machining, but NOT programming? (After all,
> you've just told us about two people who CAN'T get to where you are,
> or they wouldn't be asking you to set up their CNC...
>
> What this all leads to is that for most people, Doug is correct. An
> older commercial control (as he says, not necessarily 15 years old,
> when you have 15K bux to spend) will run circles-(and you know why
> I'm making that pun if you're familiar with TCNC-it currently has
> problems with feedrates in circles, even in the V4 beta)- around a
> STANDARD TCNC install...
>
> Once your mods make it into the TCNC pkg (if they ever do), THEN the
> argument(s) you've just laid out make sense for the "typical" guy...
>
> Having said all this, I do agree with some of your points. Ray Henry,
> I understand, taught himself programming so that he could do the same
> kinds of things with EMC that you have done with TCNC. And Art
> Fenerty is learning a LOT about what needs to be in a commercial
> level CNC control as he writes Mach2- he came from the programming
> side. So if the right person meets the right challenge...
>
> And I also agree that the timeframe for Doug's truth is diminishing.
> Hobby controls are getting a lot better, very quickly. Especially
> Mach2, IMO. TCNC, without your mods, IMO still has a long way to go.
>
> Right now, a guy who wants to machine, with 15k bux in hand, is
> better off with an older control he can use immediately. Unless YOU
> are going to update TCNC for his machine and HIS needs...
>
> Ballendo
>
> P.S. I also agree with your statements about the value of
> having "done it" yourself, so you can fix it...
>
>
> --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, Kim Lux <lux@d...> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2003-12-16 at 09:40, doug.rasmussen@c... wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Hi Kim,
> > >
> > > First off, I didn't mean to suggest buying a machine that old, I
> was
> > > only making the statement that I feel the commercial controls of
> > > that age generally have more features than the current hobby PC
> > > based
> > > types.<snip>
>
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Discussion Thread
heliarc_bob
2003-12-15 22:28:45 UTC
Bridgeport CNC retrofit recommendations wanted.
doug.rasmussen@c...
2003-12-16 07:09:47 UTC
Re: Bridgeport CNC retrofit recommendations wanted.
Kim Lux
2003-12-16 07:32:50 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Bridgeport CNC retrofit recommendations wanted.
Dale Emery
2003-12-16 08:17:06 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Bridgeport CNC retrofit recommendations wanted.
heliarc_bob@y...
2003-12-16 08:33:36 UTC
Re: Bridgeport CNC retrofit recommendations wanted.
doug.rasmussen@c...
2003-12-16 08:40:37 UTC
Re: Bridgeport CNC retrofit recommendations wanted.
Kim Lux
2003-12-16 09:30:56 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Bridgeport CNC retrofit recommendations wanted.
whagaman@s...
2003-12-16 12:01:06 UTC
Re: Bridgeport CNC retrofit recommendations wanted.
Kim Lux
2003-12-16 12:13:56 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Bridgeport CNC retrofit recommendations wanted.
Paul
2003-12-16 12:59:50 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Bridgeport CNC retrofit recommendations wanted.
doug.rasmussen@c...
2003-12-16 13:11:34 UTC
Re: Bridgeport CNC retrofit recommendations wanted.
heliarc_bob@y...
2003-12-16 19:14:31 UTC
Re: Bridgeport CNC retrofit recommendations wanted.
seb fontana
2003-12-16 20:10:06 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Bridgeport CNC retrofit recommendations wanted.
ballendo@y...
2003-12-17 06:28:34 UTC
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ballendo@y...
2003-12-17 06:30:35 UTC
Re: Bridgeport CNC retrofit recommendations wanted.
ballendo@y...
2003-12-17 06:30:59 UTC
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Kim Lux
2003-12-17 06:35:47 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Commercial vs. hobby controls was Re: Bridgeport CNC retrofit rec...
davemucha@j...
2003-12-17 06:37:00 UTC
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Kim Lux
2003-12-17 06:38:14 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Commercial vs. hobby controls was Re: Bridgeport CNC retrofit rec...
Kim Lux
2003-12-17 07:20:27 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Dedicated versus PC controls... was Commer ver hobby...
Matt Shaver
2003-12-17 07:37:29 UTC
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jeff@w...
2003-12-17 08:03:53 UTC
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dkowalcz@d...
2003-12-17 09:01:28 UTC
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Kim Lux
2003-12-17 09:35:52 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Commercial vs. hobby controls was Re: Bridgeport CNC retrofit rec...
datac@l...
2003-12-17 10:32:42 UTC
Flashcut and Mach2 was Re: Bridgeport CNC retrofit recommendations wanted.
ballendo@y...
2003-12-17 14:51:58 UTC
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ballendo@y...
2003-12-17 14:53:37 UTC
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Paul
2003-12-17 16:02:59 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] NIST 274NGC bugs
ballendo@y...
2003-12-17 17:06:21 UTC
Re: NIST 274NGC bugs
datac@l...
2003-12-17 20:14:53 UTC
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Dave Kowalczyk
2003-12-18 07:36:49 UTC
Commercial vs. hobby controls was Re: Bridgeport CNC retrofit rec...
Kim Lux
2003-12-18 07:41:14 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Commercial vs. hobby controls was Re: Bridgeport CNC retrofit rec...