Re: why not just change the motor?
Posted by
fiteboss
on 2004-01-23 11:35:53 UTC
In my business, I install and program PLC's and inverters (VFD)
everyday. Going to single phase versus using an existing 3 phase
motor and inverter is taking a giant leap backwards.
1. Three phase motors are less expensive
2. Three phase motors are more reliable
3. Inverter technology is proven and used in thousands upon thousands
of industrial applications everyday.
4. Low horsepower inverters are inexpensive.
5. Inverters are not difficult to install.
6. Inverters (when sized and programmed correctly) provide motor
overcurrent protection.
7. Inverters provide reversing capability without having to buy a
reversing contactor.
8. Inverters can provide a means of operating three phase motors from
a single phase supply. Great for outlying areas, or the home shop.
9. Most inverters can communicate by RS232, Modbus, DeviceNET,
ProfiBus, or any number of communications protocols. This can really
cut your installed cost, plus add extra value to your machine.
10. And the biggest point... inverters provide a variable speed output
to a normally constant speed motor. When sized and programmed
correctly, you can have full torque to 1hz or less. Maximum speeds can
be in excess of motor nameplate rpm. In the real world, these
abilities give you much more FLEXIBILITY in machine operation.
Kludge??? NOT.
Bryan Moody
AD&S
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "jlsmith269" <jlsmith269@y...>
wrote:
everyday. Going to single phase versus using an existing 3 phase
motor and inverter is taking a giant leap backwards.
1. Three phase motors are less expensive
2. Three phase motors are more reliable
3. Inverter technology is proven and used in thousands upon thousands
of industrial applications everyday.
4. Low horsepower inverters are inexpensive.
5. Inverters are not difficult to install.
6. Inverters (when sized and programmed correctly) provide motor
overcurrent protection.
7. Inverters provide reversing capability without having to buy a
reversing contactor.
8. Inverters can provide a means of operating three phase motors from
a single phase supply. Great for outlying areas, or the home shop.
9. Most inverters can communicate by RS232, Modbus, DeviceNET,
ProfiBus, or any number of communications protocols. This can really
cut your installed cost, plus add extra value to your machine.
10. And the biggest point... inverters provide a variable speed output
to a normally constant speed motor. When sized and programmed
correctly, you can have full torque to 1hz or less. Maximum speeds can
be in excess of motor nameplate rpm. In the real world, these
abilities give you much more FLEXIBILITY in machine operation.
Kludge??? NOT.
Bryan Moody
AD&S
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "jlsmith269" <jlsmith269@y...>
wrote:
>big snippage
>
>
> Or, heck, let's get to the heart of the issue, if *I* bought a 2 hp
> boss 8 cnc, 3ph, I would NOT bother with a vfd on it.. i would get the
> wiring and motor from a 2 hp 220 1ph , and bolt it on... and yeah, I
> would spend DOUBLE or more for that simple solution, rather than
> kludge it, knowing I am introducing unknowns into a pc-cnc/enc setup.
>
>
> thoughts?
> jeffe
> > >
Discussion Thread
jlsmith269
2004-01-22 07:22:32 UTC
why not just change the motor?
Kim Lux
2004-01-22 08:30:56 UTC
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Roy Morrison
2004-01-22 09:29:18 UTC
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Brian
2004-01-22 13:57:35 UTC
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jlsmith269
2004-01-22 18:03:37 UTC
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Brian
2004-01-22 18:45:08 UTC
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Jon Elson
2004-01-22 22:06:25 UTC
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jlsmith269
2004-01-23 07:42:54 UTC
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turbulatordude
2004-01-23 08:02:01 UTC
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Jon Elson
2004-01-23 09:54:38 UTC
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metlmunchr
2004-01-23 09:56:22 UTC
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Paul
2004-01-23 10:03:10 UTC
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Shawncd
2004-01-23 10:17:55 UTC
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turbulatordude
2004-01-23 10:26:58 UTC
Re: why not just change the motor? VFD Question ??
Shawncd
2004-01-23 11:07:10 UTC
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fiteboss
2004-01-23 11:35:53 UTC
Re: why not just change the motor?
jlsmith269
2004-01-23 11:39:16 UTC
Re: why not just change the motor?
Jon Elson
2004-01-23 18:47:16 UTC
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roel370@a...
2004-01-23 19:05:15 UTC
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ballendo
2004-01-24 07:22:51 UTC
Just Use a VFD or converter! was Re: why not just change the motor?
Lee Studley
2004-01-24 07:34:10 UTC
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Dave Dillabough
2004-01-25 07:34:59 UTC
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