Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Poor Mans DRO
Posted by
Jon Elson
on 2004-01-27 13:16:59 UTC
jim_stoll wrote:
measuring units of some sort. Sony uses either glass or magnetic scales.
Accu-Rite, Mitutoyo and many others use glass optical scales. Newall uses a
unique scheme with precision steel balls in a tube. Another outfit times
the flight of mechanical pulses (sound waves) in a steel wire with a
magnetostrictive coupling. I have not seen any commercial DROs with
rotary encoders. The reason is keeping coolant out of the works is
very difficult. These units sell for $700 - $1500 or so for standard
2 and 3-axis systems.
The bottom-of-the-line hobby-grade systems use rotary encoder schemes
to obtain minimum cost. Cheap rotary encoders made to read knobs
on equipment (with sleeve bearings) are pretty cheap, down to about $3.00
in quantity. Add a pulley to the encoder and a box to hold it all together,
and you can probably make the encoders for about $15 each.
Motors, stepping or other, have absolutely nothing to do with this. You
are talking about readouts for manually-operated machines, not CNC.
Most, if not all, DROs read out WAY too slowly for CNC. They
give 2-5 readings a second, while a closed-loop CNC needs perhaps
1000 readings a second to make accurate movements at practical speeds.
Jon
>Why is it that almost all DROs seem to use rotary encoders vs linearNearly ALL commercial/industrial grade DROs use linear encoders or
>encoders? (at least that I've heard of - bearing in mind I'm new to
>this and haven't actually ever _seen_ a DRO... :-) Is it a matter of
>it being easier to match the rotational step of a motor directly to a
>a rotary encoder - vs trying to get a rotational step, once driven
>through a lead/ball/etc screw arrangement, to match up to a linear
>increment?
>
>
measuring units of some sort. Sony uses either glass or magnetic scales.
Accu-Rite, Mitutoyo and many others use glass optical scales. Newall uses a
unique scheme with precision steel balls in a tube. Another outfit times
the flight of mechanical pulses (sound waves) in a steel wire with a
magnetostrictive coupling. I have not seen any commercial DROs with
rotary encoders. The reason is keeping coolant out of the works is
very difficult. These units sell for $700 - $1500 or so for standard
2 and 3-axis systems.
The bottom-of-the-line hobby-grade systems use rotary encoder schemes
to obtain minimum cost. Cheap rotary encoders made to read knobs
on equipment (with sleeve bearings) are pretty cheap, down to about $3.00
in quantity. Add a pulley to the encoder and a box to hold it all together,
and you can probably make the encoders for about $15 each.
Motors, stepping or other, have absolutely nothing to do with this. You
are talking about readouts for manually-operated machines, not CNC.
Most, if not all, DROs read out WAY too slowly for CNC. They
give 2-5 readings a second, while a closed-loop CNC needs perhaps
1000 readings a second to make accurate movements at practical speeds.
Jon
Discussion Thread
eewizard_1
2004-01-26 19:41:09 UTC
Poor Mans DRO
jim_stoll
2004-01-27 08:09:18 UTC
Re: Poor Mans DRO
Jon Elson
2004-01-27 13:16:59 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Poor Mans DRO
jethrobodine
2004-01-27 13:58:25 UTC
Re: Poor Mans DRO
jethrobodine
2004-01-27 14:19:50 UTC
Re: Poor Mans DRO
ballendo
2004-01-27 16:20:02 UTC
Re: Poor Mans DRO
bull2003winkle
2004-01-27 18:22:42 UTC
Re: Poor Mans DRO
Jon Elson
2004-01-27 20:13:37 UTC
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Jon Elson
2004-01-27 20:21:23 UTC
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rawen2
2004-01-27 21:58:22 UTC
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2004-01-28 04:53:31 UTC
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jethrobodine
2004-01-28 13:17:26 UTC
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Raymond Heckert
2004-01-28 17:12:59 UTC
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Ray Henry
2004-01-29 12:59:15 UTC
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Jon Elson
2004-01-29 18:04:30 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Re: Poor Mans DRO
Greg Jackson
2004-01-29 19:37:51 UTC
Ball Bar Tests & accuracy
Jon Elson
2004-01-29 21:37:29 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Ball Bar Tests & accuracy
ballendo
2004-01-30 07:34:59 UTC
stepper accuracy compared to servos...
cnczeus
2004-01-30 09:19:52 UTC
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Paul
2004-01-30 10:14:30 UTC
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turbulatordude
2004-01-30 12:04:16 UTC
Re: stepper accuracy compared to servos...
Wayne Whippo
2004-01-30 16:01:36 UTC
Re: Ball Bar Tests & accuracy
Mariss Freimanis
2004-01-30 18:55:57 UTC
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Jon Elson
2004-01-30 19:56:26 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: stepper accuracy compared to servos...
ballendo
2004-01-31 12:54:07 UTC
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eewizard_1
2004-01-31 12:54:40 UTC
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Greg Jackson
2004-01-31 13:06:04 UTC
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Paul
2004-01-31 13:37:14 UTC
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Greg Jackson
2004-01-31 13:44:36 UTC
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Jon Elson
2004-01-31 20:29:49 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: stepper accuracy compared to servos...
Chris Cain
2004-02-02 09:13:19 UTC
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