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Re: new stepper motors wiring mess...

Posted by Keith Clark
on 2004-08-28 11:14:42 UTC
Harvey, the motors are functioning now but still limited in terms of
maximum speed to 20 ipm. They are bipolar in series as recommended
by the motor factory with resistors to limit the power to 4.9 amps
per the specs. I don't think the wiring is the problem plus these
are high inductance motors. I would like to try to rewire but after
cooking two Gecko drivers, I am quite reluctant except as a last
resort.

Thanks
Keith

--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, Harvey White <madyn@i...>
wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 06:42:15 -0000, you wrote:
>
> >Help again! My repaired motion board, replacement Gecko 210
driver
> >and new stepper motors arrived. I assembled them all but
installed
> >only one stepper motor to the Z axis for testing.
> >
> >I talked to the Anaheim Automation factory person to get advice
on
> >the wiring for the Gecko drives and his new motor. It is wired
> >bipolar in series and is rated at 4.9 amps. It is one of the new
> >square Nema 42 high torque motors.
> >
> >There are 2 windings wired in series together on one side of the
> >motor and another 2 windings wired in series on the other side.
I
> >was instructed to connect one end of a set of series windings to
the
> >Gecko phase A and the other end to Phase B then connect the
second
> >set of series windings to Phase C and D. This is exactly what I
did
> >on the original Bridgeport motor and the Gecko burned up! I told
him
> >this but he thought it would be correct.
> >
> >So on I merrily went according to the plan and it was apparently
> >wrong. Luckily I had purchased a backup powersupply for the
setup
> >and it recognized an overload and shutdown before (I hope)
ruining
> >the Gecko drive. I wonder if I can just switch Phase B and C
wires
> >as I did before and get it to run.
> >
> >I just don't understand why both the Gecko instructions and the
> >Anaheim Automation instructions describe the same wiring method
and
> >it does not work. What am I not understanding here?
>
> If the Geckos have a problem with low inductance, you may be wiring
> one of the series coils (or both) backwards. The way to check
this is
> to take a battery and apply it across the a/b leads of one coil
only.
> Note how much torque you have on the motor. Put the other coils in
> series and use two batteries. You should have very roughly the
same
> torque. If you have no torque, then reverse one winding in the
series
> pair. you should get more torque.
>
> You want the position (IIRC) that has the most torque. With the
two
> coils opposing each other, the inductance is low. If the Gecko
does
> have a problem with very low inductance motors (as I have heard),
then
> the two coils opposing each other creates a very low inductance.
>
> Switching the phase B and C wires will simply make the motor run in
> the opposite direction.
>
> See if this makes sense and if it helps. Another option would be
to
> run the Geckos on a lower voltage adjustable supply with a current
> limit, and see how the motor current increases as the voltage goes
up.
> If you don't have one of those, then try the previous method.
>
> Harvey
>
>
>
> >
> >Thanks! (again)
> >Keith Clark
> >
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