Re: Re edm software
Posted by
alflewerken
on 2005-01-11 12:47:34 UTC
Hi Tom,
that was exactly, what I wanted to say. The control-software from
this plans (called testware) uses a constant feedrate. This is very
inefficient from my point of view. If I program the feedrate too
slow, it just could go faster. But more often I put the feedrate to
fast, so the wire will run into the workpiece making a shortcut.
This is recognised by the feedback-circuit, which just put a signal
to high, so the software notice this. It then retracts the wire a
few steps and try again.
My idea was, not to program a constant feedrate, but evaluate the
voltage of the edm-capacitors. If it goes too low, the process
should be slowed down. If it goes too high, the "feedback-
calculated" feedrate shoud accelerate.
Alf
that was exactly, what I wanted to say. The control-software from
this plans (called testware) uses a constant feedrate. This is very
inefficient from my point of view. If I program the feedrate too
slow, it just could go faster. But more often I put the feedrate to
fast, so the wire will run into the workpiece making a shortcut.
This is recognised by the feedback-circuit, which just put a signal
to high, so the software notice this. It then retracts the wire a
few steps and try again.
My idea was, not to program a constant feedrate, but evaluate the
voltage of the edm-capacitors. If it goes too low, the process
should be slowed down. If it goes too high, the "feedback-
calculated" feedrate shoud accelerate.
Alf
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, TomP <tomp_tag@i...> wrote:
> Alfewerken
> If this is any help for those on this thread...
> I think he wanted to say (excuse me for butting in...)
> the CNC software he has does not 'servo' (in EDM terms)
> his CNC software merely has a feedrate.
> It is possible to run EDM and use a feedrate, but it is very
inefficient.
> Feedrates are not good for EDM. EDM is a dynamic process that
envelopes
> the CNC, not the other way around. If the CNC is in charge, the
process will
> suffer. The process has to be primary. The ideas like Lag are bad
for EDM.
> Merely stay on course, but the position on that course is entirely
process
> governed. Retraction along the course is common. The progress
along the
> course is more like a cha-cha than a feedrate.
> So there is no way to determine the 'correct position' at the next
time frame.
> That's why Lag is irrelevant.
> I know of no open source EDM CNC software. If you are capable of
hacking the
> segment que in EMC, I'd certainly be interested. I think others
would be too.
> For Wire EDM the approach is very different than for Senkung. I
think it
> would
> be easiest to implement hole drilling ( single axis ) before 2, 4
or 5 axis
> wire.
> Once that was accomplished, Senkung would be next, then the
additional
> synchronous stuff in wire could be done.
> regards,
> TomP
>
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Discussion Thread
Mark
2005-01-10 19:22:54 UTC
Re edm software
TomP
2005-01-10 21:43:27 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re edm software
alflewerken
2005-01-11 12:47:34 UTC
Re: Re edm software
Stephen Wille Padnos
2005-01-11 13:42:42 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Re edm software
TomP
2005-01-11 18:53:00 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Re edm software
Stephen Wille Padnos
2005-01-11 19:04:42 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Re edm software
TomP
2005-01-12 08:20:54 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Re edm software
Alan Marconett
2005-01-12 09:40:34 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Re edm software
Raymond Heckert
2005-01-12 19:25:46 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re edm software
TomP
2005-01-13 07:46:04 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re edm software
TomP
2005-01-13 07:52:28 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Re edm software
Marcus and Eva
2005-01-13 08:25:30 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Re edm software
Alan Marconett
2005-01-13 10:21:04 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Re edm software
William Alford
2005-01-14 21:20:04 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Re edm software/ use hardware
Marcus and Eva
2005-01-14 23:06:34 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Re edm software/ use hardware
TomP
2005-01-15 17:22:13 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Re edm software/ use hardware