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Re: Help, continuing to burn drives

Posted by washcomp
on 2005-04-04 10:15:54 UTC
Keith,

Be careful with how you place diodes to ground. You could set up
your own little ground loop circuit with different grounds on
equipment at different levels.

Jeff


--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Clark" <mail@t...>
wrote:
>
> Thanks Jon, I am not sure about the diodes, just looking into the
> idea.
> Keith
>
>
> --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, Jon Elson <elson@p...>
wrote:
> > Keith Clark wrote:
> >
> > >Yes Jon, it is me again with the same problem. I have gutted
the
> > >machine and am reworking everything. Plan to find the trouble
> one way
> > >or another. It looks like one problem is that the relay turning
> on
> > >and off the powersupply is on the DC side instead of the AC side
> and
> > >that might be causing spikes when I turn it on?
> > >
> > It causes a current surge, for sure. You are connecting a
massive
> capacitor
> > bank to a smaller, discharged set of capacitors in the drives,
> when the
> > relay
> > closes. The current is limited only by the resistance of the
> wires. If the
> > supply capacitors are at 75 V, and the wires have a resistance
> of .1 Ohms,
> > then the current will be 750 Amps when the contacts close. I
> imagine the
> > relay contacts can't survive this for long, either. The wires
> would have to
> > have a lot of inductance for there to be a voltage surge related
> to this.
> >
> > > Another change is to
> > >switch to unipolar wiring of the motors and drop to 5 amps with
> > >limiting resistors on the Gecko. Also some diodes on the Gecko
> side
> > >to ground.
> > >
> > Doides to ground? I've never heard of this on a Gecko. Where
> will you
> > connect
> > these diodes?
> >
> > > I already have them across the fuses which were no help
> > >before. I need to get systems to limit current and voltage
> installed
> > >to prevent those variations it looks like I am experiencing.
> > >
> > >I really think the y motor is ok since it is new but when
> everything
> > >has been redone and protected as much as possible, I will try
> your
> > >neon light test. Thanks again!
> > >
> > >
> > Even new motors can, possibly, be bad. It would be rare, of
> course, but
> > anything can happen.
> >
> > >Keith
> > >
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Discussion Thread

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