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Re: Is it possible to change the BP motor to eliminate shifting?

Posted by Keith Clark
on 2005-04-10 11:31:45 UTC
Thanks everyone, At second blush it looks like the shifting is going
to have to stay. I like the idea of a stepper motor in place of the
spindle, but the way these motors loose torque at high rpm might
creat the opposite problem. At least NC control of the spindle
speed in the two ranges will be a great improvement.

Thanks,
Keith


--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Reilley"
<micrio@m...> wrote:
> Perhaps the best way to think about it is with an analogy. Could
> you have a car without a transmission? The answer is yes.
However,
> you would have to make some choices. If you pick a fixed ratio
> that allows you to go highway speed then you will accelerate very
> slowly to get to your desired speed. There are some hills that
you
> could not climb.
>
> If you choose a ratio that allows you to go up any hill then you
would
> not be able to reach highway speed. Driving around town would be
> fine.
>
> Of course you could install a very large engine that would have
enough
> torque for any hill but would still reach highway speed. The
downside
> is gas mileage and cost.
>
> The transmission in your car like the transmission in your
Bridgeport
> gives you the ability to use a motor of reasonable size to do most
> any job that you want.
>
> In the early days of automatic transmissions for cars they used a
> torque converter but few gears. Some cars had two speed
transmissions
> or even one speed. They depended on the torque converter to
> multiply the engines torque. Torque converters, then and now,
cannot
> produce the torque range that a gear box can. These cars
accelerated
> at a majestic (slow) rate as my father remembered. He recalls
driving
> some way back then. This probably slowed the acceptance of
automatic
> transmissions. Most people bought standard transmissions.
>
> Pete.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Keith Clark" <mail@t...>
> To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 11:14 AM
> Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Is it possible to change the BP
motor to
> eliminate shifting?
>
>
> >
> > I was wondering if there some more powerful motor or other way to
> > gear it to maintain the torque in the low range?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Keith
> >
> >
> > --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "Lance Hopper"
> > <snaggletto@c...> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes, you can use a VFD, to control the speed of the motor.
> > However,
> >> you will lose tons of torque (cutting power) at lower RPM's by
not
> >> using the backgear (low gear range). This would render the
> > Bridgeport
> >> nearly useless while using larger diameter cutters at low RPM.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Clark"
<mail@t...>
> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Is it possible to change the 2 HP motor on my (Series 1
> > originally
> >> > Boss controlled) Bridgeport spindle during conversion to
control
> >> > spindle speed, to a motor that could have the entire speed
range
> >> > needed and thus obviate the need for the gear shift?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Keith
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Discussion Thread

Keith Clark 2005-04-10 06:23:50 UTC Is it possible to change the BP motor to eliminate shifting? Lance Hopper 2005-04-10 07:30:09 UTC Re: Is it possible to change the BP motor to eliminate shifting? Keith Clark 2005-04-10 08:14:15 UTC Re: Is it possible to change the BP motor to eliminate shifting? Jeff Goldberg 2005-04-10 09:29:31 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Is it possible to change the BP motor to eliminate shifting? Stephen Wille Padnos 2005-04-10 09:36:14 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Is it possible to change the BP motor to eliminate shifting? Jeff Goldberg 2005-04-10 09:48:03 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Is it possible to change the BP motor to eliminate shifting? R Rogers 2005-04-10 10:00:34 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Is it possible to change the BP motor to eliminate shifting? Peter Reilley 2005-04-10 10:15:48 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Is it possible to change the BP motor to eliminate shifting? Keith Clark 2005-04-10 11:31:45 UTC Re: Is it possible to change the BP motor to eliminate shifting? Jon Elson 2005-04-10 11:55:03 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Is it possible to change the BP motor to eliminate shifting? Jon Elson 2005-04-10 11:57:26 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Is it possible to change the BP motor to eliminate shifting? Keith Clark 2005-04-10 19:14:45 UTC Re: Is it possible to change the BP motor to eliminate shifting? gary 2005-04-10 19:37:56 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Is it possible to change the BP motor to eliminate shifting? Jon Elson 2005-04-10 20:10:45 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Is it possible to change the BP motor to eliminate shifting? Keith Clark 2005-04-10 20:44:56 UTC Re: Is it possible to change the BP motor to eliminate shifting? Keith Clark 2005-04-10 20:46:02 UTC Re: Is it possible to change the BP motor to eliminate shifting? Keith Clark 2005-04-10 20:55:44 UTC Re: Is it possible to change the BP motor to eliminate shifting? gary 2005-04-10 21:14:11 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Is it possible to change the BP motor to eliminate shifting? gary 2005-04-10 21:19:24 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Is it possible to change the BP motor to eliminate shifting? Dan Mauch 2005-04-11 05:40:12 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Is it possible to change the BP motor to eliminate shifting? Dan Mauch 2005-04-11 05:50:10 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Is it possible to change the BP motor to eliminate shifting? R Rogers 2005-04-11 06:09:32 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Is it possible to change the BP motor to eliminate shifting? Keith Clark 2005-04-11 12:35:39 UTC Re: Is it possible to change the BP motor to eliminate shifting? m0nkey0ne 2005-04-11 19:23:27 UTC Re: Is it possible to change the BP motor to eliminate shifting?