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Re: ELCB Issues

Posted by xj5373
on 2007-04-19 11:38:53 UTC
After all your good advice I wanted to update you on my ELCB problem.
I rewired the workshop ring main and fed it from the non ELCB side of
the consumer unit and the problem went away.

Out of interest the workshop has three inverters in it already none
of which ever gave any problems with the ELCB. One of these is built
into my Myford 254 so I couldn't say just what it was but the other
two are an Alston ALSPA MV500 and a Mitsubishi E500. The inverter in
the Denford is by Siemens.

Ian

--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Vaughan" <mark@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Lester
>
> What make inverter did you find that is good to use after an ELCB.
>
> I've fitted loads of VFD's or all sorts of makes and never found
one yet
> that will keep a 100mA ELCB in.
>
>
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>
>
> xj5373 wrote:
> > Thanks for this.
> >
> > I guess the thing that bothers me is that once the machine is up
and
> > running, like this morning for example, everything works normally
and
> > the trip stays in. So it seems that in normal circumstances there
is
> > no imbalance between live and neutral, it seems to be something
that
> > happens just when the charge pump relay powers up the inverter
and
> > the stepper power supply, hence my suggestion of some kind of
> > transient.
> >
> > Once powered up the Inverter (spindle) can be switched on and off
> > with no ill effects, the steppers similarly work without problems.
>
> Filter caps connected to earth causing a problem? Hence the point
about
> checking WHAT is connected to the earth line. I have an nice EMC
test set
> that
> does cause a problem with it's caps, so it has a large isolating
transformer
>
> in front. The inverter I've been playing with does not give any
trouble and
> has been designed to be used after an ELCB, so that may be the
problem.
>
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