Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: ELCB Issues
Posted by
Harko Schwartz
on 2007-03-18 20:57:26 UTC
all of those drives recommend a line reactor. There are also other
considerations like keeping signal lines away from power lines both from the
input of the inverters and the output just the same for the servo
controllers. Most of the newer systems use high frequencies like 40 khz and
the harmonics they create are a problem. There is also the other
consideration that the motors capacitance leaks those frequencies to
ground. If a motor is not connected to the frame and is moving it should
have a positive ground wire connected to it to the machine frame.
Harko
considerations like keeping signal lines away from power lines both from the
input of the inverters and the output just the same for the servo
controllers. Most of the newer systems use high frequencies like 40 khz and
the harmonics they create are a problem. There is also the other
consideration that the motors capacitance leaks those frequencies to
ground. If a motor is not connected to the frame and is moving it should
have a positive ground wire connected to it to the machine frame.
Harko
On 3/18/07, Mark Vaughan <mark@...> wrote:
>
> Trouble is we have no other choice but to use an EMC filter.
>
> I have used a lot of Jaguar, Omron and Siemens inverters with and without
> EMC filters, and for me they still tripped a 100mA ELCB with or without
> the
> filter.
>
> These were all new. We used to just have a spare supply on it's own ELCB
> just for testing the inverters so it wouldn't knock all the rest of the
> factory out.
>
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>
> Mark Vaughan wrote:
>
> > What make inverter did you find that is good to use after an ELCB.
> >
> > I've fitted loads of VFD's or all sorts of makes and never found one yet
> > that will keep a 100mA ELCB in.
>
> Possibly one without an inbuilt EMC filter ;) Once fitted an inline
> filter to an OLD Jaguar Cub inverter, that was enough to cause tripping.
> Before it was OK.
>
> Wayne....
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xj5373
2007-03-18 01:09:13 UTC
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2007-03-18 01:33:30 UTC
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