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RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: microstepping drivers

Posted by Mark Vaughan
on 2007-04-26 00:08:12 UTC
There’s so much interpretation it’s unbelievable.

I arranged a visit by DTI officers before weights and measures were put in
charge in the UK, and I eventually received a written response from the DTI,
together with their disclaimer, but something written from Gov’t helps my
due diligence, and their decisions and conclusions would not have been mine.
The really silly bit is after it, I was offered the job to be a Rohs
consultant for them, which would have totally sent it scatty.

It is supposed to be the same in all countries in the EU.

I know one firm that manufactures laboratory equipment for hospitals and
labs (Not test kit). If sold to industry the kit is exempt, but if a member
of the public buy’s it to use in their home lab, the supplier has broken the
law.

Another firm make boilers. They have been told they can stockpile parts and
spent two years before the ban flat out making control boards. You cannot
stockpile parts, BUT if the device being sold derives most of it’s energy
from a source other than electricity then it is exempt. I would apply this
to a gas or oil fired boiler.



Have you found a specific written exclusion for PLC’s. The only one I can
find is control kit exemption till 2008

I do a lot of boat electrics, steering controls for large vessels, and it
does appear as you have said this area is exempt.

Cars are an odd issue. For cars lead is controlled on the end of life
directive which gives a restriction on total lead content in cars. The
manufacturers thought this was easy because the car was so heavy when
compared with the weight of the electronics. BUT no body realised how much
lead there is in recycled steel. Last year every car produced broke the
legislation, and the EU agreed not to prosecute if the manufacturers worked
on a solution, but there isn’t enough virgin steel available to correct
this, so the EU has had to adjust the level.

I also manufacture agricultural electronic controls, the EU have totally
passed this by.

All I know is I spent over £40K last year just on man hours for the RoHs
issue, and if the EU are going to keep adding this sort of legislation many
many companies are not going to survive. Strangely though if you want lead
free from China, most manuf. are well ahead of the EU, so this legislation
will do more harm to the EU, where companies kept small by over taxation
just cannot keep up.

All EU ministers (come to that all ministers) should have an internet
linked, CNC controlled noose, and when we get p*ss*d off with them, we push
a button on a web page and vote to let them know. I propose this should be
EU law.



Dr. Mark Vaughan Ph'D. B.Eng. M0VAU

Managing Director

Vaughan Industries Ltd, reg in UK no 2561068

Water Care Technology Ltd, reg in UK no 4129351

Addr Unit3, Sydney House, Blackwater, Truro, Cornwall, TR4 8HH, UK.
Phone/Fax 44 1872 561288

RSGB DRM111(Cornwall)

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From: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of caudlet
Sent: 26 April 2007 02:05
To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: microstepping drivers



--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_ <mailto:CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO%40yahoogroups.com>
DRO@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Vaughan" <mark@...> wrote:
>
> A CNC mill does not come under the definition of fixed machinery.
>
> I brought this up with the authorities, when I questioned a device
we sell
> to keep scale from pipes. I tried to argue it becomes part of a
building, it
> is bolted to the wall and fixed to it's plumbing, if removed the
building
> will scaleup and cease to function. My argument was no accepted, I
was told
> my kit would be exempt since it has a control portion until Jan2008.
>
>

So from reading your post it appears that even the written rules are
open to subjective interpretation. Worse than that it varies by
country within the EU and there there is the whole problem of
enforcement. I think instead of making your local EU industries more
competative they have actually done just the opposite. So can you
build a product for a country without the restrictions and export or
is that banned too?

I don't think the RHoS was ever about the environment or pollution. I
think some chowder-head political types saw an opportunity to erect
some trade barriers thinking the Far East would be kept from dumping
cheap electronics. Like all government run programs it takes on a
life of it's own once jobs are created to "manage" the process.

So I guess I will be selling "control systems" until Jan then maybe
Boat Electronics after that (:-)

Gotta go. It's been proven that Global Warming is being caused by all
of the friction from all of the home build CNC machines running and I
need to go shut mine off.

TOM C





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