RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: microstepping drivers

Hi Lester
Thanks for the agreement.
We have registered with WeeeCarePlc, they seem to be the cheapest in the UK
for WEEE and getting rid of toxic waste (electronics with lead).
There are local guys that want £20 to scrap a PC monitor, they are making a
mint going around the banks, and refurbing them for overseas. Best way out
of that if you only have the odd one to get rid of is to sell the PC monitor
working to a friend, wife etc. Then when it stops working next week she can
take it to the dump. We did offer to give some working ones to charity, but
that isn't allowed, you have to invoice them, they they are not waste.

Down with the EU

Regs Mark

Dr. Mark Vaughan Ph'D. B.Eng. M0VAU
Managing Director
Vaughan Industries Ltd, reg in UK no 2561068
Water Care Technology Ltd, reg in UK no 4129351
Addr Unit3, Sydney House, Blackwater, Truro, Cornwall, TR4 8HH, UK.
Phone/Fax 44 1872 561288
RSGB DRM111(Cornwall)

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[mailto:CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lester Caine
Sent: 26 April 2007 10:36
To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: microstepping drivers

Mark Vaughan wrote:

> There’s so much interpretation it’s unbelievable.
>
> I arranged a visit by DTI officers before weights and measures were put in
> charge in the UK, and I eventually received a written response from the

DTI,

> together with their disclaimer, but something written from Gov’t helps my
> due diligence, and their decisions and conclusions would not have been

mine.

> The really silly bit is after it, I was offered the job to be a Rohs
> consultant for them, which would have totally sent it scatty.
>
> It is supposed to be the same in all countries in the EU.
>
> I know one firm that manufactures laboratory equipment for hospitals and
> labs (Not test kit). If sold to industry the kit is exempt, but if a

member

> of the public buy’s it to use in their home lab, the supplier has broken

the

> law.
>
> Another firm make boilers. They have been told they can stockpile parts

and

> spent two years before the ban flat out making control boards. You cannot
> stockpile parts, BUT if the device being sold derives most of it’s energy
> from a source other than electricity then it is exempt. I would apply this
> to a gas or oil fired boiler.
>
> Have you found a specific written exclusion for PLC’s. The only one I can
> find is control kit exemption till 2008
>
> I do a lot of boat electrics, steering controls for large vessels, and it
> does appear as you have said this area is exempt.
>
> Cars are an odd issue. For cars lead is controlled on the end of life
> directive which gives a restriction on total lead content in cars. The
> manufacturers thought this was easy because the car was so heavy when
> compared with the weight of the electronics. BUT no body realised how much
> lead there is in recycled steel. Last year every car produced broke the
> legislation, and the EU agreed not to prosecute if the manufacturers

worked

> on a solution, but there isn’t enough virgin steel available to correct
> this, so the EU has had to adjust the level.
>
> I also manufacture agricultural electronic controls, the EU have totally
> passed this by.
>
> All I know is I spent over £40K last year just on man hours for the RoHs
> issue, and if the EU are going to keep adding this sort of legislation

many

> many companies are not going to survive. Strangely though if you want lead
> free from China, most manuf. are well ahead of the EU, so this legislation
> will do more harm to the EU, where companies kept small by over taxation
> just cannot keep up.
>
> All EU ministers (come to that all ministers) should have an internet
> linked, CNC controlled noose, and when we get p*ss*d off with them, we

push

> a button on a web page and vote to let them know. I propose this should be
> EU law.

Seconded :)
Just been discussion replacing computers on a site. If I refurbish them I
can
use what ever I want inside, but it would be cheaper just to scrap the lot
and
put in new machines - which the Chinese will supply RoHS compliant. Except I

now have to dispose of the old ones and cover the cost of that as well. So
we
are going to fit new motherboards, add a second hard disk and only have the
old motherboard to dispose off - which will be stored to provide spares for
other sites ;)

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