Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: How to convert a Grizzly 1006 Mill to CNC

There are no stupid questions in the world.

A man who asks is one who learns, and one who tells is someone sharing ..

You can ignore the extra ports. Or disable the onboard lpt1 parallel
port in the pc bios. It wont matter.

This was in my earlier post - mach supports 2 ports maximum. (There are
ways, but its complex and not worth it for now ...).
2 parallel ports is what you need, and it will be plenty.
You really want a 2 ghz+ machine - because you really, really want to
run at 60 to 100 khz. The faster it runs, the less jitter you have on
timing pulses, and the better it works. Really. I would recommend a
second-hand newish (or new) motherboard - maybe 100-200. Not expensive.

NOT konqueror - my mistake. I´m really sorry. Can´t imagine what I was
thinking about, I suppose I´m getting old ...

I meant KNOPPIX of course.
http://www.knoppix.org/

Download the knoppix iso image. Its a bittorrent file, you need utorrent
to download it. Burn it to cd. But cd in pc. Boots from cd.

It automatically detects all your hardware, and boots into graphical
windows environment.
It wont touch your hard drive.
You need to install nothing.
Its dead easy, even if you have 0 linux experience.

Just look in the menu for hardware and resources, you can see the real
io address of any card in the system.
My experiences have been excellent, even with old hardware.
You will need this, to see the io address of the parallel port, unless
the windows driver tells it like it should.
Mine are dc00 and ec00 for lpt2 and lpt3. Std default ports are 378 and
276, iirc.

In mach3, you then configure lpt1 as dc00 and lpt 2 as ec00. thats it.
Its even easier to do it than write it. No sweat.

A quick google on "pc dual paralllel port card" found this.
http://www.nextag.com/Lava-Computer-Lava-Dual-63629958/prices-html
Any cheap pci parallel port card should work.

Its such a cheap item, I don´t even order them from the warehouses, just
pick one up in nearest neighbourhood pc shop.

> Hi Hannu
> Wow guess you now what your talking about, I really love Rhino and it takes
> an eternity to get under the skin with maya but I like that to.
> Rhino is also outstandig in dealing with different file formats so it works
> really great with Maya except for the problem with mesh vs nurbs but thats a
> great deal better now with Rhino4.
> Autocad I only use when I get blueprints from Architects in my work with
> public commissions (and I agree its no fun app).
> About the ports:
> Is mach 3 supporting more then 2 ports and do you think i need more then 2
> ports for my machine?
> I have an older cad computer with PIII with win xp and 2 parallel port on
> it, but I use one for my vinyl-cutter, I have to pull that, if its enough
> with 2 ports?
> The problem getting it to work with multiple ports is if you add a second
> pci card with one or two more ports so you get 3 or 4 parallel ports, right
> (did I understand that correct)?
> What is the hw-setting you talk about and where can I find this "konqueror
> linux live cd" used google but its a browser as I can see it?
> Does it exist external parallel cards? Stupid question probably.
> The more I find out the more confused I am getting....
> Regards
> Per
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>> Re: the software sounds really nice.
>> I´m just beginning to be adequate with rhino , in my opinion - I used to
>> do studio and tv work with 3d studio, and have worked with catia, 18
>> years ago ! Have 20 years 3d experience. I have been told by people who
>> know that maya is really, really good. I have no idea about connecting
>> it to cam, though.
>>
>> For any cnc drawing, rhino is by far the best, in my opinion, as it is
>> easy fast and accurate, unless you count solidworks. solidworks is very
>> expensive, but very, very good in parametric, db- linkages, external
>> program support, industry support etc.
>>
>> So, for one-off or series of x parts, rhino. for db based 24x7
>> production,solidworks. for any freeform, organic type stuff, rhino.
>> visual mill seems to be easy, i dont yet have experience apart from demo.
>>
>> In my experience / opinion autocad is no good. It can be used by the
>> desperate, but I would not use it unless I get $$ / hour.
>>
>> Mach3 is probably your best bet. Emc2 is good, but you may not want or
>> need to learn it, and mach hardware support after or beyond 2 parallel
>> ports is very good. Mach is also quite reliable, for windows software,
>> better than it should be.
>>
>> Re: parallel ports - you have 2 different mails - the consensus, like my
>> post and opinion, is that its best to get 2 right from the start. You
>> will definitely get better layout, organization, etc. if you start with
>> 2 ports. Also, the headache of additional ports with dual-port cards is
>> smaller.
>>
>> There is a very easy way to get pci parallel port cards to work in mach,
>> no-one has mentioned it on the lists. Boot konqueror linux live cd, look
>> in hw setting, you get real hw settings. Put it in mach3, and it works.
>> You need 0 % Linux know-how or experience. Very easy, very reliable.
>> Several windows drvers/ cards won´t tell you the hw settings, as they
>> commonly do and are supposed to.
>>
>> Also, on one of my interface cards, the onboard parallel port card draws
>> too much current and the power supply or motherboard cooks. Using a
>> separate card, it works 100%. Its a hw issue somewhere, but rather than
>> solve it at 1-8 hours, I just use the dual-pci card. 15 €.
>>
>>
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>>> Hi Hannu
>>> I realized that I didnt answer your question about what software I am
>>> using.
>>> For general modeling Rhino4, for more freeform modeling Maya, for cam I
>>> use
>>> rhinocam and someother sw that i am testing out.
>>> I also try to learn Solidworks and Autocad and a bunch more to see what
>>> works best.
>>> Been looking towards VisualMill, but if you like some other sw that you
>>> think would workout pls let me know.
>>> And for the control of the router I think I go with Mach3 since there is
>>> so
>>> much people working with it.
>>> best regards
>>> Per
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "hannu" <hvenermo@...>
>>> To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 12:49 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: How to convert a Grizzly 1006 Mill to
>>> CNC
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