Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Home shop power for a big machine
Posted by
Jon Elson
on 2008-12-31 11:03:32 UTC
vrsculptor wrote:
pushing it! The line current into a typical rotaty phase converter is
going to be REALLY high with a machine like this. If you trip the
breaker out on the transformer, the power company is going to get QUITE
nosy about what you are doing. If you have your own dedicated pole
transformer, you might get away with it. Especially if the local setup
has a 50 KVA transformer on the pole. If you have a 25 KVA transformer
shared between 4 residences, you will NEVER get away with it, and you'll
have a bunch of angry neighbors, too.
It is possible that the machine really doesn't need 3-phase at all. If
the servo drives are PWM (not phase-controlled SCR) they may run fine on
single-phaee power. If a VFD is used for spindle speed control, it may
be able to run off single phase at reduced output.
Jon
> I was lusting over a big VMC that would never fit in my home shop andI think even with 200 A service in a typical home, you are really
> got to wondering about power. The machine's data plate says 230 volts
> 3PH @ 80 AMP's, 18KVA. It has a 15 HP spindle.
>
> I could use a rotary phase converter to generate the three phase but
> don't have anywhere near 80 AMP's available. 18KVA/750 watts equals a
> 24 HP phase converter.
>
> If you where using this machine in a hobby environment and not trying
> to get production feeds and loads how small of a phase converter could
> you get by with?
>
pushing it! The line current into a typical rotaty phase converter is
going to be REALLY high with a machine like this. If you trip the
breaker out on the transformer, the power company is going to get QUITE
nosy about what you are doing. If you have your own dedicated pole
transformer, you might get away with it. Especially if the local setup
has a 50 KVA transformer on the pole. If you have a 25 KVA transformer
shared between 4 residences, you will NEVER get away with it, and you'll
have a bunch of angry neighbors, too.
It is possible that the machine really doesn't need 3-phase at all. If
the servo drives are PWM (not phase-controlled SCR) they may run fine on
single-phaee power. If a VFD is used for spindle speed control, it may
be able to run off single phase at reduced output.
Jon
Discussion Thread
vrsculptor
2008-12-31 07:10:17 UTC
Home shop power for a big machine
556RECON
2008-12-31 08:31:52 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Home shop power for a big machine
Michael Fagan
2008-12-31 08:36:21 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Home shop power for a big machine
Jim Fleig - CNC Services
2008-12-31 10:00:26 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Home shop power for a big machine
Jon Elson
2008-12-31 11:03:32 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Home shop power for a big machine
caudlet
2008-12-31 11:20:52 UTC
Re: Home shop power for a big machine
gcode fi (hanermo)
2008-12-31 11:27:29 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Home shop power for a big machine
Yahoo
2008-12-31 12:56:07 UTC
Re: Home shop power for a big machine
shawn c
2008-12-31 16:10:05 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Home shop power for a big machine
gcode fi (hanermo)
2008-12-31 16:31:49 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Home shop power for a big machine
Jon Elson
2008-12-31 19:59:03 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Home shop power for a big machine
Jon Elson
2008-12-31 20:06:03 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Home shop power for a big machine
Beau Beaufait
2008-12-31 20:11:44 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Home shop power for a big machine
shawn c
2008-12-31 20:42:10 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Home shop power for a big machine
Dave Halliday
2008-12-31 22:38:32 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Home shop power for a big machine
Roland Jollivet
2009-01-01 11:31:16 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Home shop power for a big machine
Matthew Tinker
2009-01-01 11:31:16 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Home shop power for a big machine
gcode fi (hanermo)
2009-01-01 11:31:16 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Home shop power for a big machine
vrsculptor
2009-01-01 13:03:47 UTC
Re: Home shop power for a big machine - Thanks for the input
Jon Elson
2009-01-01 14:31:34 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Home shop power for a big machine - Thanks for the input
Jim Fleig - CNC Services
2009-01-01 18:19:14 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Home shop power for a big machine - Thanks for the input
vrsculptor
2009-01-02 10:34:00 UTC
Re: Home shop power for a big machine - Thanks for the input
Jon Elson
2009-01-02 20:40:18 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Home shop power for a big machine - Thanks for the input
Michael Fagan
2009-01-03 04:49:48 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Home shop power for a big machine - Thanks for the input
smirob1
2009-01-03 06:28:49 UTC
Re: Home shop power for a big machine - Thanks for the input
Jim Peck
2009-01-03 07:35:40 UTC
Home shop power for a big machine - Thanks for the input
Dan Mauch
2009-01-03 13:23:23 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Home shop power for a big machine - Thanks for the input
556RECON
2009-01-03 13:40:28 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Home shop power for a big machine - Thanks for the input