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Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Home shop power for a big machine

on 2008-12-31 11:27:29 UTC
All good comments.
There is an issue with the sheer capacity ... ? can you get, in the US,
for a nominal cost, that much power ?

Thats 12 kW of power, just for this machine. And peak loads are likely
to be the 12 kW.
You would probably need a 18-25 kW service from the power company for
your shops/residence.

Over here, in Spain, it may cost 50k$, and may take 3 months .... to a year.
Depends on where you are and what the feed is in your area.
Two locations next to each other may have different feeds ... and its a
50k$ question.
Something to check with the power company.

For an easy solution, you could get a cheap, second hand large diesel
generator. Industrial.
They are rugged, last forever, and need a noise shield (outside) and
then its solved.
Cheap to run, maybe 1$ /hour. Just an idea.


Jon Elson wrote:
>
> vrsculptor wrote:
> > I was lusting over a big VMC that would never fit in my home shop and
> > got to wondering about power. The machine's data plate says 230 volts
> > 3PH @ 80 AMP's, 18KVA. It has a 15 HP spindle.
> >
> > I could use a rotary phase converter to generate the three phase but
> > don't have anywhere near 80 AMP's available. 18KVA/750 watts equals a
> > 24 HP phase converter.
> >
> > If you where using this machine in a hobby environment and not trying
> > to get production feeds and loads how small of a phase converter could
> > you get by with?
> >
> I think even with 200 A service in a typical home, you are really
> pushing it! The line current into a typical rotaty phase converter is
> going to be REALLY high with a machine like this. If you trip the
> breaker out on the transformer, the power company is going to get QUITE
> nosy about what you are doing. If you have your own dedicated pole
> transformer, you might get away with it. Especially if the local setup
> has a 50 KVA transformer on the pole. If you have a 25 KVA transformer
> shared between 4 residences, you will NEVER get away with it, and you'll
> have a bunch of angry neighbors, too.
>
> It is possible that the machine really doesn't need 3-phase at all. If
> the servo drives are PWM (not phase-controlled SCR) they may run fine on
> single-phaee power. If a VFD is used for spindle speed control, it may
> be able to run off single phase at reduced output.
>
> Jon
>
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vrsculptor 2008-12-31 07:10:17 UTC Home shop power for a big machine 556RECON 2008-12-31 08:31:52 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Home shop power for a big machine Michael Fagan 2008-12-31 08:36:21 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Home shop power for a big machine Jim Fleig - CNC Services 2008-12-31 10:00:26 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Home shop power for a big machine Jon Elson 2008-12-31 11:03:32 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Home shop power for a big machine caudlet 2008-12-31 11:20:52 UTC Re: Home shop power for a big machine gcode fi (hanermo) 2008-12-31 11:27:29 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Home shop power for a big machine Yahoo 2008-12-31 12:56:07 UTC Re: Home shop power for a big machine shawn c 2008-12-31 16:10:05 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Home shop power for a big machine gcode fi (hanermo) 2008-12-31 16:31:49 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Home shop power for a big machine Jon Elson 2008-12-31 19:59:03 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Home shop power for a big machine Jon Elson 2008-12-31 20:06:03 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Home shop power for a big machine Beau Beaufait 2008-12-31 20:11:44 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Home shop power for a big machine shawn c 2008-12-31 20:42:10 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Home shop power for a big machine Dave Halliday 2008-12-31 22:38:32 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Home shop power for a big machine Roland Jollivet 2009-01-01 11:31:16 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Home shop power for a big machine Matthew Tinker 2009-01-01 11:31:16 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Home shop power for a big machine gcode fi (hanermo) 2009-01-01 11:31:16 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Home shop power for a big machine vrsculptor 2009-01-01 13:03:47 UTC Re: Home shop power for a big machine - Thanks for the input Jon Elson 2009-01-01 14:31:34 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Home shop power for a big machine - Thanks for the input Jim Fleig - CNC Services 2009-01-01 18:19:14 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Home shop power for a big machine - Thanks for the input vrsculptor 2009-01-02 10:34:00 UTC Re: Home shop power for a big machine - Thanks for the input Jon Elson 2009-01-02 20:40:18 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Home shop power for a big machine - Thanks for the input Michael Fagan 2009-01-03 04:49:48 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Home shop power for a big machine - Thanks for the input smirob1 2009-01-03 06:28:49 UTC Re: Home shop power for a big machine - Thanks for the input Jim Peck 2009-01-03 07:35:40 UTC Home shop power for a big machine - Thanks for the input Dan Mauch 2009-01-03 13:23:23 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Home shop power for a big machine - Thanks for the input 556RECON 2009-01-03 13:40:28 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Home shop power for a big machine - Thanks for the input