Re: Home shop power for a big machine - Thanks for the input
Posted by
vrsculptor
on 2009-01-01 13:03:47 UTC
Hi All,
Many thanks for the comments. I am sure the machine has a VFD which
could do a low energy soft start if it were not for the working
Siemens PC-2100 controller. As was pointed out previously VMC's like
to do instant stops and starts. I don't know enough about the
controller to be confident that I could change the acceleration
deceleration curve.
If I chose to do an EMC2 retrofit, something I can do, I could lower
the acceleration and power spike. I would probably follow Jon's advice
and convert as much of the machine to single phase as I could. I'm
sure the head cooling fan, lube and coolant pumps are 3 phase so a low
power phase converter would still be required. I might be lucky and be
able to run the VFD on single phase but I doubt it as its 12 years old.
If I had to buy a VFD, Mesa interface boards, new terminations, a PLC
and maybe a single phase power transformer for the servo AMP's it
could cost upwards of $1.5-2K and a month or so to convert the
machine. I can't justify the purchase price, conversion cost plus a
selection of CAT40 tooling (I currently use Kwik Switch 300) for a
hobby machine.
I'll stick with my current Tree mill with it's two arm tool changer.
Thanks again and have a Happy New Year,
Roger
Many thanks for the comments. I am sure the machine has a VFD which
could do a low energy soft start if it were not for the working
Siemens PC-2100 controller. As was pointed out previously VMC's like
to do instant stops and starts. I don't know enough about the
controller to be confident that I could change the acceleration
deceleration curve.
If I chose to do an EMC2 retrofit, something I can do, I could lower
the acceleration and power spike. I would probably follow Jon's advice
and convert as much of the machine to single phase as I could. I'm
sure the head cooling fan, lube and coolant pumps are 3 phase so a low
power phase converter would still be required. I might be lucky and be
able to run the VFD on single phase but I doubt it as its 12 years old.
If I had to buy a VFD, Mesa interface boards, new terminations, a PLC
and maybe a single phase power transformer for the servo AMP's it
could cost upwards of $1.5-2K and a month or so to convert the
machine. I can't justify the purchase price, conversion cost plus a
selection of CAT40 tooling (I currently use Kwik Switch 300) for a
hobby machine.
I'll stick with my current Tree mill with it's two arm tool changer.
Thanks again and have a Happy New Year,
Roger
Discussion Thread
vrsculptor
2008-12-31 07:10:17 UTC
Home shop power for a big machine
556RECON
2008-12-31 08:31:52 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Home shop power for a big machine
Michael Fagan
2008-12-31 08:36:21 UTC
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2008-12-31 10:00:26 UTC
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Jon Elson
2008-12-31 11:03:32 UTC
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caudlet
2008-12-31 11:20:52 UTC
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gcode fi (hanermo)
2008-12-31 11:27:29 UTC
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Yahoo
2008-12-31 12:56:07 UTC
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2008-12-31 16:10:05 UTC
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2008-12-31 16:31:49 UTC
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Jon Elson
2008-12-31 19:59:03 UTC
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Jon Elson
2008-12-31 20:06:03 UTC
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2008-12-31 20:11:44 UTC
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shawn c
2008-12-31 20:42:10 UTC
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Dave Halliday
2008-12-31 22:38:32 UTC
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Roland Jollivet
2009-01-01 11:31:16 UTC
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Matthew Tinker
2009-01-01 11:31:16 UTC
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gcode fi (hanermo)
2009-01-01 11:31:16 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Home shop power for a big machine
vrsculptor
2009-01-01 13:03:47 UTC
Re: Home shop power for a big machine - Thanks for the input
Jon Elson
2009-01-01 14:31:34 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Home shop power for a big machine - Thanks for the input
Jim Fleig - CNC Services
2009-01-01 18:19:14 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Home shop power for a big machine - Thanks for the input
vrsculptor
2009-01-02 10:34:00 UTC
Re: Home shop power for a big machine - Thanks for the input
Jon Elson
2009-01-02 20:40:18 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Home shop power for a big machine - Thanks for the input
Michael Fagan
2009-01-03 04:49:48 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Home shop power for a big machine - Thanks for the input
smirob1
2009-01-03 06:28:49 UTC
Re: Home shop power for a big machine - Thanks for the input
Jim Peck
2009-01-03 07:35:40 UTC
Home shop power for a big machine - Thanks for the input
Dan Mauch
2009-01-03 13:23:23 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Home shop power for a big machine - Thanks for the input
556RECON
2009-01-03 13:40:28 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Home shop power for a big machine - Thanks for the input