Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Home shop power for a big machine
Posted by
Jon Elson
on 2008-12-31 19:59:03 UTC
caudlet wrote:
The idling current on a 25 Hp 3-phase, 230 V motor will be roughly 82 Amps.
This will be at 90 degree lagging power factor, so it won't show up on
your watthour meter, but it IS current on your mains, and will be added
to any current the machine draws. Or, to the rest of the house, you
neighbor's houses, etc. This is why you are really going to hve trouble
running anything this big on a 200 A service. You will almost certainly
need a soft-start system on the idler motor, and if the machine spindle
is a plain 3-phase motor with a run contactor, you will never get away
with starting that once the idler is running. If the machine has a VFD,
then you will be in much better shape, as they can be set for a softer
start.
Jon
>Right, but he was saying he thought a 25 Hp idler motor would be needed.
> one trick is to use "idler" motors to help generate more 3Phase.
The idling current on a 25 Hp 3-phase, 230 V motor will be roughly 82 Amps.
This will be at 90 degree lagging power factor, so it won't show up on
your watthour meter, but it IS current on your mains, and will be added
to any current the machine draws. Or, to the rest of the house, you
neighbor's houses, etc. This is why you are really going to hve trouble
running anything this big on a 200 A service. You will almost certainly
need a soft-start system on the idler motor, and if the machine spindle
is a plain 3-phase motor with a run contactor, you will never get away
with starting that once the idler is running. If the machine has a VFD,
then you will be in much better shape, as they can be set for a softer
start.
Jon
Discussion Thread
vrsculptor
2008-12-31 07:10:17 UTC
Home shop power for a big machine
556RECON
2008-12-31 08:31:52 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Home shop power for a big machine
Michael Fagan
2008-12-31 08:36:21 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Home shop power for a big machine
Jim Fleig - CNC Services
2008-12-31 10:00:26 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Home shop power for a big machine
Jon Elson
2008-12-31 11:03:32 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Home shop power for a big machine
caudlet
2008-12-31 11:20:52 UTC
Re: Home shop power for a big machine
gcode fi (hanermo)
2008-12-31 11:27:29 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Home shop power for a big machine
Yahoo
2008-12-31 12:56:07 UTC
Re: Home shop power for a big machine
shawn c
2008-12-31 16:10:05 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Home shop power for a big machine
gcode fi (hanermo)
2008-12-31 16:31:49 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Home shop power for a big machine
Jon Elson
2008-12-31 19:59:03 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Home shop power for a big machine
Jon Elson
2008-12-31 20:06:03 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Home shop power for a big machine
Beau Beaufait
2008-12-31 20:11:44 UTC
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shawn c
2008-12-31 20:42:10 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Home shop power for a big machine
Dave Halliday
2008-12-31 22:38:32 UTC
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Roland Jollivet
2009-01-01 11:31:16 UTC
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Matthew Tinker
2009-01-01 11:31:16 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Home shop power for a big machine
gcode fi (hanermo)
2009-01-01 11:31:16 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Home shop power for a big machine
vrsculptor
2009-01-01 13:03:47 UTC
Re: Home shop power for a big machine - Thanks for the input
Jon Elson
2009-01-01 14:31:34 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Home shop power for a big machine - Thanks for the input
Jim Fleig - CNC Services
2009-01-01 18:19:14 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Home shop power for a big machine - Thanks for the input
vrsculptor
2009-01-02 10:34:00 UTC
Re: Home shop power for a big machine - Thanks for the input
Jon Elson
2009-01-02 20:40:18 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Home shop power for a big machine - Thanks for the input
Michael Fagan
2009-01-03 04:49:48 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Home shop power for a big machine - Thanks for the input
smirob1
2009-01-03 06:28:49 UTC
Re: Home shop power for a big machine - Thanks for the input
Jim Peck
2009-01-03 07:35:40 UTC
Home shop power for a big machine - Thanks for the input
Dan Mauch
2009-01-03 13:23:23 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Home shop power for a big machine - Thanks for the input
556RECON
2009-01-03 13:40:28 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Home shop power for a big machine - Thanks for the input