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Threads on a ball screw - annealing and tempering thereof...

Posted by Dave Halliday
on 2010-02-27 22:47:30 UTC
You really need to heat it until you hit the Curie point -- it will become
nonmagnetic. Glue a small magnet onto a stick for testing.

Get a couple pounds of vermiculite from a garden supply store and a small
metal (five gallon) wastebasket. When you are done heating the screw, put
it into the center of your vermiculite and that will keep it very hot for a
day or more -- it needs to cool down very slowly.

To re-temper, heat to Curie point again and quench in either saturated salt
water or oil (use a length of 3" iron pipe held vertically and be prepared
for the fire - do a dry run first). The steel will now be unusably brittle.

Heat it up to about 450 in a toaster oven (use aluminum foil to block off
the crack in the door or torch a hole in the side) and let it soak at this
temperature for at least one hour per inch of thickness. Back into the
vermiculite for a couple hours and you are good to go...

Dave

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> Yes, I too have used the annealing method and it works on
> most ballscrews but not all. I heat the ends to a straw color
> then slowly let it cool. Machining is much easier but Like
> Steve mentioned you still have to take a heavy cut to get
> under the case hardening. Then it machines pretty nice.
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> Annealing the end of the ballscrew first is the obvious answer.
>
> I think someone posted this before, but here's a video on
> the process;
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzIsR4Mg158
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> Roland
>
> On 26 February 2010 00:15, david@fignoggle - IMAP
> <david@...>wrote:
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> >
> > it's the interrupted cuts that also create a bit of a
> problem. again,
> > with proper insert tooling or lots of hss grinding, the
> material is
> > easier to cut after the threads are removed. we use a ccmt 21.51
> > style/size insert and the smaller radius seems to cut
> better than some
> > of the larger triangle/trigon inserts we've tried.
> >
> > to get a nice, polished finish on the journals, you can
> leave a thou or
> > so and spin up your lathe and use sandpaper belts of a
> desired width.
> > usually, after 400 grit, your finish will be pretty nice.
> >
> > hope this helps!
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> > Steve Blackmore wrote:
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> > > On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 16:33:39 -0500, you wrote:
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> > > >What is this "sleeve goop" you speak of, something better than
> > > threadlocker?
> > > >
> > > >Those ballscrews ARE nearly impossible to cut down or
> thread, makes a
> > > good case for making yourself an inexpensive toolpost
> grinder. You
> > > just have to cover your entire machine with plastic so
> you don't get
> > > the grinding mess into your ways.
> > >
> > > I've turned and threaded ballscrews without any
> problems? They are only
> > > usually 4140 or 4150 alloy steel or 1050 Carbon steel.
> You need to take
> > > deep roughing cuts to get through the surface hardness
> with Carbide
> > > insert tooling. Something like Iscar IC3028 inserts are
> good for that.
> > > Once through the surface they are no trouble at all
> with normal insert
> > > tooling.
> > >
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Discussion Thread

Jack 2010-02-23 08:05:22 UTC Threads on a ball screw........ David G. LeVine 2010-02-23 11:27:11 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Threads on a ball screw........ Jack McKie 2010-02-23 13:00:16 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Threads on a ball screw........ Will Holding 2010-02-25 11:31:33 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Threads on a ball screw........ Jack McKie 2010-02-25 13:27:33 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Threads on a ball screw........ Steve Blackmore 2010-02-25 14:00:08 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Threads on a ball screw........ david@f... 2010-02-25 15:30:54 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Threads on a ball screw........ Roland Jollivet 2010-02-26 08:24:03 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Threads on a ball screw........ leswatts@w... 2010-02-26 08:52:51 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Threads on a ball screw........ Dan Mauch 2010-02-26 08:53:33 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Threads on a ball screw........ Will Holding 2010-02-26 13:30:42 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Threads on a ball screw........ Dave Halliday 2010-02-27 22:47:30 UTC Threads on a ball screw - annealing and tempering thereof...