Re: U.S. 220 vs Euro 220
Posted by
ballendo@y...
on 2001-05-21 18:17:47 UTC
Sven,
Exactly! The use of 60hz motors on 50 hz will likely burn them up.
Running 50 hz motors on 60 is ok. Best solution is 120/240; 50/60
motors for anything sold/used worldwide. Xfrmrs also should be 50hz
rated for usage in europe.
Hope this helps.
Ballendo
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., "Sven Peter, TAD S.A." <peteryco@r...>
wrote:
Exactly! The use of 60hz motors on 50 hz will likely burn them up.
Running 50 hz motors on 60 is ok. Best solution is 120/240; 50/60
motors for anything sold/used worldwide. Xfrmrs also should be 50hz
rated for usage in europe.
Hope this helps.
Ballendo
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., "Sven Peter, TAD S.A." <peteryco@r...>
wrote:
> Europe is dangerous for US machines!!!!!and the
> US is no problem for European machines!
>
> I looked meanwhile through some other posts on this thread.
> It seems like Europe is now changing over to 230 Volt 50 Herz.
> This might make changes better for you. But when I lived back
> in Germany we had 220V 50 Hz. One leg life and the other neutral
> third true ground. This might give problems as it was mentioned withHz
> 120V users,
> which often are hidden inside the machine without mentioning in the
> manual.
>
> These two currents are definitely very different.
> In America we have 240 Volts and 60 Hertz frequency
> in Europe there is 220V and 50 Hertz.(Now or soon 230V)
> The 50 Hz motors are designed to have much more inertia than the 60
> ones. The rotors are much beefier in Europe.motors.
> At least this is the case with threefase and normal singlefase
> How it is with DC and step motors I have no clue.point.
>
> The result is you can easily take a machine from Europe to America.
> Only the motors rise 20% in speed and loose 20% in torque.
> For contactors you frequently have to step up the voltage
> from 220V 20% up to 264 Volt. Otherwise they shatter.
> But if you take from America a machine to Europe you will
> burn it in a very short time,because the motors low inertia.
> In other words the gap between the sinus curve of voltage in 50 Hz
> is too long and the motor for 60 Hz does not come over this dead
> If you want to take it with you, you probably need a inverter toproduce
> your own 60 Hz current.discussion of shop built systems, for CAD, CAM, EDM, and DRO.
> Hope this is a hint and saves you a loss.
> Good Luck
> Sven Peter
>
> blueveil@e... wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know if U.S. 220 is the same as European 220?
> > Could I take a 220 single phase cnc machine to Europe and use
> > it without any adapters?
> > Any knowledge on this subject would be greatly appreciated.
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2001-05-17 14:46:54 UTC
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2001-05-21 18:17:47 UTC
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2001-05-21 23:43:29 UTC
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