Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: RE MAXNC, light machines, EMCO MAIER,BOBCAD and beta interface test

Fred Smith.

What is it exactly you are saying, and what exactly do you sell, since I
have stepped on your toes hard enough for you to react in such a unfreindly
way you have me interestd in your product enough to investigate it. It is
nice to see that this is not a sissy list and folks can get right in your
face on welcoming day, so tkae off your suit jacket and lets rumble:^)

I try to be funny, if you find me offfensive use the delete key
But Fred
Your reply is not too nice, I do own the licenses to all the software I
offered to GIVE away, I assume that whoever would sell me their software
would destroy the copies on thier machine as required, I did not ask anyone
to make me an ILLEGAl COPY of anything and I am willing to pay registrations
fees for any thing I get. But it has to work for me, Just like an employee,
when I hre someone I tell them what they are to do they don't tel me the
terms they will work for me. I domn't hire people like that or buy crummy
software that won't work my way. That is why IO get to choose wether or not
to buy.

Obviously if Emco could be of help they would be the first place I would
turn, the fact is EMCO DOES NOT SUPPORT THESE OLD MACHINES. I started
calling them the day I bought my machine NEW from them eight years ago.

You make some pretty negative and strange assumptions.

I see now, you sell a product called Vector Cam. It does not do what I want
a software program to do. Here is where some things get confusing. When I
pay someone or buy something I expect it to do what I want it to do. If
something or somebody wants ME to do what it/they want then THEY PAY me.
This goes for software. I want software to do what I want IT to do, I am not
willng to pay money for something that I have to do what it tells me to. So
if you write and sell software I would be happy to buy it from you, I will
tell you exactly what I expect the software to do, make it do that ad I will
buy your software, But please do not lecture me about things I have spent
thousands of dollars trying to solve unless you actually have a solution. I
am not a software programmer nor do I want to be one.

Johnno

----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Smith" <imserv@...>
To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 7:26 AM
Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: RE MAXNC, light machines, EMCO MAIER,BOBCAD
and beta interface test


> --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., "FIK" <vrojas@p...> wrote:
> > I have several CNC machines here,
>
> I'm cutting your obvious Bobcad advertising and misinformation about
> the quality of the Bobcad support organization and will try to
> address what you seem to be saying is your problem. I have also
> removed your offers to sell or buy software that you do not either
> own the license for or are not authorized to sell to others.
>
> > If there are really 1600 members on
> > this group lets assume 60% actually own and use EMCO MAIER
> CNC5's/F1 CNC. If
> > 25% would like a user freindly REAL cad/cam software program then
> get one
>
> First of all you are probably quite overly optimistic about the
> number of EMCO MAIER systems, but instead of coming here bragging and
> advertising, why don't you just ask if anyone has a post they could
> share? If there are EMCO users here would you be willing to share
> your Bobcad configuration with John? See I did it for you.
>
> 2ndly, I have seen the code for an EMCO CNC and it is pretty vanilla
> G-code. Just about any beginner should be able to take the generic
> Bobcad milling configuration and make usable programs in about 20
> minutes. There are probably sections in your user manual that
> describe the NC program format. If not, I would recommend that you
> contact EmcoMaier and see if they can provide you with a user manual
> for your machine. These are usually available for a nominal fee.
>
> 3rd- Bobcad can easily draw an ellipse. It approximates it with a
> series of arcs. These arcs when cut will create an ellipse. Now if
> you want to engrave an ellipse, you are done. Even if you can't get
> arcs to work on your machine, You can interpolate the arcs into line
> segments that will also cut the shape of an ellipse.(Look under 3D)
>
> However if you are trying to create a 3D surface, the cross section
> of which is an ellipse, you can use the skin function or a ruled
> surface to cut it with a 3D mill.( an extrusion of an ellipse)
>
> If you are trying to create a DOMED form, with an elliptical base,
> you can also do this in Bobcad, but it will require that you have an
> excellent understanding of the way the skin function works, and 3D
> wireframe drawing, and you will also need to understand the mechanics
> of surface milling so that you can get an acceptable surface finish
> (assuming that you don't want to do much hand work after the
> machining is done)
>
>
> Judging from your tone and comments, I suspect that even if you had
> your Bobcad configuration, you might not be too happy with the
> results that could be obtained with a short learning curve. You may
> be happier with a 3D solid modeling program and a CAM program that
> can machine a 3D model, rather than the wireframe approach found in
> Bobcad.
>
> Just in case it comes up, I am NOT a disinterested party here, I sell
> a competing product to Bobcad that I consider to be far superior in
> capability and value. My company sold Bobcad for nearly 10 years,
> and we produced the "Bobcad for Windows Training Videos". These
> videos cover versions 16-17. We no longer sell or support Bobcad.
>
>
> Best Regards, Fred Smith- IMService
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