Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: BobCAD/CAM v.s. Dolphin CAD/CAM

I'm also curious about Vector upgrade policy. I was pretty surprised to buy
software last fall and have to pay for an upgrade just a few months later.
Most software packages allow a period of gratis upgrades. Does Vector require
payment for every update?

Thanks,
Steve Smith

stevenson_engineers wrote:

> --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., "imserv1" <imserv@v...> wrote:
> >
> > Why? What's the difference? How can you control a theoretical tool
> > path that is created on the fly as John is so fond of accusing
> >Vector
> > of creating G-code? Because Surfcam does it that way? No way, I
> > much prefer to have all the toolpaths as an editable, selectable,
> > configurable set of entities. Creating toolpaths on the fly is what
> > makes Bobcad so hard to understand. You never have a chance to
> > correct a toolpath until the G-code is generated.
>
> Fred, perhaps we could get a clarification here.
> It's been a long while since I played with Vector, in fact it was the
> v7.0 demo you sent me some yeras ago. I have V8.0 that was given to
> me but I've never used it. Also others on this list may not be
> familar with Vector.
> How does v9.3 generate code?
> does it:-
> [1] Generate code after each operation is selected?
> or
> [2] Generate gode at the end of the program when all operation have
> been selected and organised?
>
> I would call the first on the fly as if the code has been written
> there is no way to enter anything earlier in the code other than by
> manual editing.
> The second I would call post processing
>
> > >Case in point: Clean pocket. "clean pocket" sure looks
> > > like it works exactly like the old bobcad. If you select a circle
> > in your
> > > drawing without offsetting a line to represent 1/2 the diameter
> >of
> > the
> > > tooling you want to use, It uses the parts circle line as a
> > toolpath.
> >
> > It's supposed to. Clean circle is a Wire EDM function. You always
> > use cutter comp for wire, hence the cut goes to the line. Did you
> > notice there is no Z depth, for wire edm
>
> Fred perhaps a note to Centrifore to consider putting the program
> into seperate modules so that operations special to a type of mavhine
> doesn't show on anither. I presume the manual mentions this is an EDM
> operation?
>
> > Yes it will, but you missed the important thing, we want to keep
> > Vector simple. In Holland they call it the "machinists handy
> >tool",
> > or something like that. >
>
> Get rid of the arrows then and introduce automatic offsets.
> This will clean up te screen. A cluttered up screen with extra paths
> that have to be drawn on it can't be classed as simple.
>
> > Right now we are in a major development of new capabilities. These
> > capabilities are about to be plugged in, after over 2 years of
> > intense development. Even with that effort, however, we still came
> > out with 2 (TWO!) major releases in 2001.
>
> V9.3 has only just been released as a paid upgrade. Why not wait and
> incorporate the whole lot together? Will the new capabilities also be
> paid upgrades?
>
> >
> > 2002 is the tenth year anniversary for Vector and coincidentally it
> > is also the ten year anniversary for IMService. If you think we
> are
> > going to curl up and rest on our laurels, change your
> > prescriptions! ;-)
> >
> >
> Good of you Fred, No one is asking you to curl up. Change is was is
> needed and is good for the industry. Look at Bobcad to see where that
> is , buggy program, no support, bad comments and their V18 is as
> eleusive as the Holy Grail.
>
> John S.
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