Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Polar Coordinates CNC?
Posted by
Raymond Heckert
on 2002-11-04 19:15:19 UTC
Fred, I have to agree with the other Ray H. A Polar
machine/software making a move from X(1) to X(2) must
calculate every position along the path, whereas a
Recti-linear machine merely has to say' "Am I at X(2)
yet?... no, well, then add another pulse at the X-axis."
Now, it's true, that in a Rect. machine/software,
interpolating a circular move, the program must calculate
every point on the path, but so must a Polar
machine/software. Polar machines must, of necessity be more
complex. I trained o a FANUC 120-iL Robot Welder at the
Lincoln Electric School in Cleveland, OH, a couple of years
ago, and that was one complex machine. Six axes, and four
different reference frames (points of view). Fortunately,
the programming was done via a Pendant, so it was
relatively easy... But the machine was complex. It was
really fearsome, to watch that robot welding, just thinking
about all the calculations it had to be making every few
microseconds.
RayHex
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machine/software making a move from X(1) to X(2) must
calculate every position along the path, whereas a
Recti-linear machine merely has to say' "Am I at X(2)
yet?... no, well, then add another pulse at the X-axis."
Now, it's true, that in a Rect. machine/software,
interpolating a circular move, the program must calculate
every point on the path, but so must a Polar
machine/software. Polar machines must, of necessity be more
complex. I trained o a FANUC 120-iL Robot Welder at the
Lincoln Electric School in Cleveland, OH, a couple of years
ago, and that was one complex machine. Six axes, and four
different reference frames (points of view). Fortunately,
the programming was done via a Pendant, so it was
relatively easy... But the machine was complex. It was
really fearsome, to watch that robot welding, just thinking
about all the calculations it had to be making every few
microseconds.
RayHex
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> From: Fred Smith <imserv@...>wrote:
> To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Polar Coordinates CNC?
> Date: Sunday, November 03, 2002 8:06 PM
>
> --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., Ray Henry <rehenry@u...>
> > along that vector so in effect it is a polar move. Ican't for the
> > life of me see how specifying three angles and adistance would be more
> > efficient or would somehow alter the fundamentalthinking about
> >milling or turning.mounted in
> >
>
> It's the machine that is simpler.
>
> Think of a turntable (like a lazy susan) with the part
> place on the turntable. The rotation is C axisface of the
>
> Now place a single horizontal linear axis parallel to the
> turntable (X) above the work piece, and mount a VerticalZ axis onto
> the X. (R is not a valid CNC linear axis so I will referto it as X.)
>bearing for C.
> The machine is simplified to a single linear X and a
> Instead of at least 4 precision linear guide componentsfor a linear
> gantry style machine, you reduce it to 2 (shortestpossible) plus the
> bearing (Actually only 1 if you use a dove tailarrangement like a
> Bishop-Wisecarver rail). The Z axis is the samemechanism in this
> case.
Discussion Thread
Ken Jenkins
2002-11-03 08:43:30 UTC
Re: Polar Coordinates CNC?
wenger2k
2002-11-03 10:46:36 UTC
Re: Polar Coordinates CNC?
Fred Smith
2002-11-03 11:28:42 UTC
Re: Polar Coordinates CNC?
alenz2002
2002-11-03 12:52:57 UTC
Re: Polar Coordinates CNC?
Alan Marconett KM6VV
2002-11-03 15:58:20 UTC
Re: Polar Coordinates CNC?
Ray Henry
2002-11-03 17:38:09 UTC
Re: Re: Polar Coordinates CNC?
Fred Smith
2002-11-03 18:06:36 UTC
Re: Polar Coordinates CNC?
Ray Henry
2002-11-04 04:40:06 UTC
Re: Re: Polar Coordinates CNC?
IMService
2002-11-04 06:17:20 UTC
Re: Re: Re: Polar Coordinates CNC?
allan_reinhard
2002-11-04 11:06:09 UTC
Re: Polar Coordinates CNC?
Ray Henry
2002-11-04 18:58:47 UTC
Re: Re: Re: Re: Polar Coordinates CNC?
Raymond Heckert
2002-11-04 19:15:19 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Polar Coordinates CNC?
bjammin@i...
2002-11-05 05:06:55 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Polar Coordinates CNC?
Ray Henry
2002-11-05 09:21:37 UTC
Re: Re: Re: Polar Coordinates CNC?
Dan Mauch
2002-11-05 10:16:58 UTC
DRO Boards
bjammin@i...
2002-11-05 14:39:00 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Re: Re: Polar Coordinates CNC?
macfool68
2002-11-12 16:45:59 UTC
Re: DRO Boards
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2002-11-12 23:05:20 UTC
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2002-11-13 06:38:47 UTC
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2002-11-13 06:52:17 UTC
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2002-11-13 07:14:42 UTC
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2002-11-13 07:28:16 UTC
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Tim Goldstein
2002-11-13 09:11:12 UTC
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j.guenther
2002-11-13 09:22:49 UTC
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2002-11-13 09:29:31 UTC
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Dan Mauch
2002-11-13 10:31:44 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: DRO Boards
Dan Mauch
2002-11-14 12:56:05 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: DRO Boards
Peter Homann
2002-11-17 16:59:38 UTC
Running Unipolar steppers with a Bi-polar driver?
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2002-11-17 17:27:23 UTC
Re: Running Unipolar steppers with a Bi-polar driver?
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2002-11-17 20:56:41 UTC
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2002-11-17 22:59:27 UTC
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2002-11-18 08:09:41 UTC
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2002-11-18 09:40:29 UTC
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2002-11-18 10:35:42 UTC
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2002-11-18 17:07:08 UTC
Re: Running Unipolar steppers with a Bi-polar driver?
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2002-11-18 21:56:32 UTC
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2002-11-19 10:59:15 UTC
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2002-11-20 22:40:35 UTC
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