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RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: XYLOTEX VS GECKO DRIVE ?? why ?

Posted by Mark Thomas
on 2003-06-11 20:20:09 UTC
Dan,

I'm lucky that I originally bought a multi (5) tap transformer so all I have
to do is a quick lead change. I just need to drop the new boards into my
existing case.

To be fair to Camtronics, when I purchased the kit it was the only
reasonable solution on the market, and it has given me good service over the
year and a half of use (even just a couple of years ago the average 3 axis
driver was $1000+), and I've had great service/advice from Dan. I'm not
going to shelve the Cam drivers, I've got a lot of other projects I can use
them on.

What is exciting is that new chips/solutions are now coming out which gives
us much more options. I'm really looking forward to trying the Xylotex
boards.

Cheers,

Mark

P.S. I love the work you're doing, and will contact you off list about
bringing some of it here to Japan.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Statman Designs, LLC [mailto:titanium@...]
> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 11:52 AM
> To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: XYLOTEX VS GECKO DRIVE ?? why ?
>
>
> Mark,
>
> I was so impressed with the increased performance (from a
> resonance point of
> view, or lack thereof) that I bought two Xyoltex drives and have put my
> Camtronics 2A driver on the shelf. You will have to use a smaller power
> supply, obviously, but Jeff at Xylotex has a nice 24V unit he can
> sell you.
> You can also buy the same 24V P.S. through MPJA.com.
>
> Daniel J. Statman, Statman Designs
> www.statmandesigns.com
> dan.statman@...
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Thomas" <mthomas@...>
> To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 10:07 PM
> Subject: RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: XYLOTEX VS GECKO DRIVE ?? why ?
>
>
> > Luis,
> >
> > I've just ordered a couple of Xylotex boards (3 & 1 Axis) to
> try out on my
> > Taig. I should receive them some time next week, and once I have them
> setup
> > I'll write a report about them.
> >
> > I don't have any Gecko's so won't be able to compare directly
> (apples and
> > oranges anyway), but will be able to compare with the Microproto driver
> and
> > Camtronics 2amp board.
> >
> > I'm changing because I want to use 1/8 stepping. I'm also a little
> concerned
> > about the voltage (I'm using 35VDC with the Camtronics board) but I
> decided
> > the Xylotex was worth trying out due to all the good feedback
> I've read on
> > various groups. (If they aren't suitable for the mill I've got
> some other
> > projects going that I can use them with).
> >
> > It should be interesting because all the steppers on my mill are
> different.
> > I have the original 180 oz on the Z and A axis, a 200oz on Y
> and a larger
> > 262oz on X.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: luisguillermo98 [mailto:luisguillermo98@...]
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 10:16 AM
> > > To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: XYLOTEX VS GECKO DRIVE ?? why ?
> > >
> > >
> > > Dave,
> > > I am not changing. I have geckos on sherline and I am looking for a
> > > new CNC for my new taig I just got. I am trying to find out if the
> > > xylotex will work as well as the gecko...My volt/current are low I am
> > > wondering if xylotex will give me the same speed and power.
> > >
> > >
> > > Luis ...
> > >
> > > --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "turbulatordude"
> > > <davemucha@j...> wrote:
> > > > Hi Luis,
> > > >
> > > > The question I think that I don't have an answer to is why do you
> > > > want to change ?
> > > >
> > > > the motor will get as hot as the power you put thru it. Regardless
> > > > of the driver, if you use 30V and 2 amp, the motor will get exactly
> > > > the same temp.
> > > >
> > > > if you pump more power thru it by increaseing the amps the motor
> > > will
> > > > get hoter.
> > > >
> > > > Also, by reducing your existing set-up to a lower voltage you will
> > > > lose speed, no way around that.
> > > >
> > > > I may have missed if you motor is a 4 wire or 6/8. the 4 is set
> > > and
> > > > does not offer options. if it is a 6 or 8 wire, then you have the
> > > > option of wiring it for a single coil at full amps or series for
> > > half
> > > > amps. the half amps offers a much cooler motor.
> > > >
> > > > either way, a 2 amp rating on a Gecko is low and the Gecko will not
> > > > get hot.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe it would be a good idea to list the nameplate volts and amps,
> > > > wire count and if you are wiring it single coil or series.
> > > >
> > > > What it sounds like is you are trading down for no reason. the 4
> > > > volt motor would be much stronger at 60 volts than 35 volts and a
> > > > series winding will offer a much colder motor.
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > >
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