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Re: Knee for z-axis control?

Posted by volitan712003
on 2004-09-22 17:29:18 UTC
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "industrialhobbies" <admin@i..
.> wrote:
> Eric,
>
> You might want to think about going with a pneumatic cylinder, an
> accumulator, and a regulator instead of gas springs.
>
> It gives the advantage of being adjustable (varying table load) and
> if the accumulator/cylinder ratio is high enough it's fairly
constant
> lift force.
>
> Unlike gas springs which force becomes exponential with compression.
>
> Incase you don't know the math:
> Radius ^2 @Pi (3.14) * PSI = Lift force
>
> On a 4" bore cylinder that works out to:
> 2^2 = 4 *3.14 = 12.56 Square Inches of piston area. To hold up 400
> LBS you would need about 32PSI.
>
> You could make a little chart and mount it to the side of the mill.
>
> 32 PSI empty table
> 38 PSI 1 Vise
> 44 PSI 2 Vise
>
> This way loading on the axis motor would be more or less constant,
> plus you could use a smaller motor.
>
> Check on eBay cylinders are cheap.
>
> Good luck on the knee. You'll love the travel.
>
> Thanks
> Aaron Moss
> www.IndustrialHobbies.com
>


I like this idea alot. Does anyone know how to calculate the size of
the accumulator that would be needed based on the different cylinder
diameters and strokes?

Thanks
David

Discussion Thread

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