Re: Why is the push to such high step rates (Grex and Arc100)?
Posted by
lcdpublishing
on 2006-12-18 09:13:32 UTC
That's what I am trying to grasp, what applications are there that
utilize such high speed & high resolution?
Based on the little that I know about drives, motors, and
electronics, the only thing that I can see with a 256 microstep
drive is just to have a larger number of steps within a given about
of rotational displacement. It has been said by many that you
cannot rely on the precision of the microsteps, only the full steps
of a stepper motor. So, if that is correct, then the only advantage
of having 256 microsteps is perhaps a smother motion? Again,
assuming microstep as a stepper motor driver, how many stepper
motors are out there that can deliver any useable torque over 1000
RPM?
As for servos, I can see where you can put on them very high
resolution encoders, but where and how would you use something like
that? Servos don't have much in the form of low RPM torque, so
running something direct drive with them is unusual such as a timing
belt pulley attached directly to the servo.
As for resolution and precision, in machine tools, it's pretty hard
to find anything with a resolution better than .0001" or .001MM.
Beyond that is very impractical without taking some very special
steps to insure the mechanicals can deal with any more resolution.
Perhaps there is something in the production of silicon wafers or
something that this sort of resolution and speed is utilized? I
can't imagine anything in: metal working, woodworking, robotics,
etc. so I am sort of stumped as to what applications this would be
for?
Thanks
Chris
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "Mariss Freimanis"
<mariss92705@...> wrote:
utilize such high speed & high resolution?
Based on the little that I know about drives, motors, and
electronics, the only thing that I can see with a 256 microstep
drive is just to have a larger number of steps within a given about
of rotational displacement. It has been said by many that you
cannot rely on the precision of the microsteps, only the full steps
of a stepper motor. So, if that is correct, then the only advantage
of having 256 microsteps is perhaps a smother motion? Again,
assuming microstep as a stepper motor driver, how many stepper
motors are out there that can deliver any useable torque over 1000
RPM?
As for servos, I can see where you can put on them very high
resolution encoders, but where and how would you use something like
that? Servos don't have much in the form of low RPM torque, so
running something direct drive with them is unusual such as a timing
belt pulley attached directly to the servo.
As for resolution and precision, in machine tools, it's pretty hard
to find anything with a resolution better than .0001" or .001MM.
Beyond that is very impractical without taking some very special
steps to insure the mechanicals can deal with any more resolution.
Perhaps there is something in the production of silicon wafers or
something that this sort of resolution and speed is utilized? I
can't imagine anything in: metal working, woodworking, robotics,
etc. so I am sort of stumped as to what applications this would be
for?
Thanks
Chris
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "Mariss Freimanis"
<mariss92705@...> wrote:
>pulse
> 256 microstep drive at 3,000 RPM equals a 2.56 MHz step pulse
> frequency.
>
> 4,000 line encoder on a 6,000 RPM servo equals a 1.6 MHz step
> frequency.
>
> Not all applications are low speed, low resolution.
>
> Mariss
>
>
Discussion Thread
lcdpublishing
2006-12-18 07:09:10 UTC
Why is the push to such high step rates (Grex and Arc100)?
Mariss Freimanis
2006-12-18 08:30:26 UTC
Re: Why is the push to such high step rates (Grex and Arc100)?
turbulatordude
2006-12-18 09:00:14 UTC
Re: Why is the push to such high step rates (Grex and Arc100)?
lcdpublishing
2006-12-18 09:13:32 UTC
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2006-12-18 10:14:19 UTC
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2006-12-18 10:31:11 UTC
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lcdpublishing
2006-12-18 11:06:01 UTC
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2006-12-18 11:20:22 UTC
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lcdpublishing
2006-12-18 11:45:42 UTC
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2006-12-18 11:45:55 UTC
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2006-12-18 12:14:34 UTC
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2006-12-18 12:22:02 UTC
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lcdpublishing
2006-12-18 12:32:27 UTC
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Leslie Newell
2006-12-18 12:39:43 UTC
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lcdpublishing
2006-12-18 12:41:58 UTC
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lcdpublishing
2006-12-18 12:53:38 UTC
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2006-12-18 12:58:12 UTC
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Mark Vaughan
2006-12-18 13:05:57 UTC
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lcdpublishing
2006-12-18 13:08:38 UTC
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John Dammeyer
2006-12-18 14:20:46 UTC
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Tony Smith
2006-12-18 14:25:18 UTC
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lcdpublishing
2006-12-18 14:33:30 UTC
Re: Why is the push to such high step rates (Grex and Arc100)?
Leslie Newell
2006-12-18 14:46:59 UTC
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Leslie Newell
2006-12-18 14:48:02 UTC
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Fred Smith
2006-12-18 15:01:55 UTC
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John Dammeyer
2006-12-18 15:16:54 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Why is the push to such high step rates (Grex and Arc100)?
Jon Elson
2006-12-18 20:47:23 UTC
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Jon Elson
2006-12-18 20:47:37 UTC
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turbulatordude
2006-12-19 04:58:10 UTC
Re: Why is the push to such high step rates (Grex and Arc100)?
lcdpublishing
2006-12-19 05:15:37 UTC
Re: Why is the push to such high step rates (Grex and Arc100)?
lcdpublishing
2006-12-19 05:29:33 UTC
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Jon Elson
2006-12-19 07:59:03 UTC
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Graham Stabler
2006-12-19 08:38:12 UTC
Re: Why is the push to such high step rates (Grex and Arc100)?
lcdpublishing
2006-12-19 08:56:42 UTC
Re: Why is the push to such high step rates (Grex and Arc100)?
Graham Stabler
2006-12-19 09:46:05 UTC
Re: Why is the push to such high step rates (Grex and Arc100)?
optics22000
2006-12-19 10:27:16 UTC
Re: Why is the push to such high step rates (Grex and Arc100)?
John Dammeyer
2006-12-19 11:04:49 UTC
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2006-12-19 12:06:19 UTC
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2006-12-19 12:12:22 UTC
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