Servo questions.
Posted by
Wally K
on 2000-11-25 23:59:51 UTC
Wally asks;
So are you saying the torque curves for servos with a linear or
chopper drive look the same. Assuming they both can put enough
current and voltage out.
So are you saying the torque curves for servos with a linear or
chopper drive look the same. Assuming they both can put enough
current and voltage out.
>>Wally wrotewhen
> > I have a few questions on servos that you could clear up for me.
> > First i thought servos were chopped drives. But it seems that
> > people here talk about a servo rated at a certain voltage, that isJon replied;
> > the voltage they run it at. Example, the servo is rated at 24vdc.
> > So they run it at 24vdc.
>
> Well, either with linear or PWM servo amps, you need to allow someabsolute as
> drop in the amplifier. Also, the voltage ratings are not as
> the current ratings. You can't exceed the peak current rating on aPM
> motor, even for an instant, or it can demagnetize the magnets,ruining
> the motor. You can exceed the voltage, at least for shortintervals, as
> long as the motor isn't exceeding safe RPMs. But, it all comes backand the
> to desired table IPM (or mm/Min). If you want 120 IPM rapid feed,
> leadscrew is 5 TPI, you need 600 RPM on the leadscrew. With a 2:1the
> reduction ratio, you need 1200 RPM on the motor. If the motor was
> rated at 1000 RPM at 24 V no load, you'd need a little more to get
> 1200 RPM, say 28.8 V. Plus, if the motor has a 1.5 Ohm resistance
> and the lesser peak rating of the servo amp and motor is 5 A, then
> IR drop in the armature is 7.5 V. Plus, you probably should allow1.2 =
> 20% extra voltage for drops in the amp, so you need 28.8 + 7.5 x
> about 44 V supplied to the servo amp. There's no harm in goinghigher
> with a switching-type amp, due to the current limiting, it is notlikely
> that it will overvolt the motor. (One possible scenario that hasto be
> thought about is a broken belt. Running a 24 V motor on a 100 Vproportional
> supply could cause the motor to turn at extremely high speeds and
> throw the windings. Proper calibration of the servo amp and CNC
> control should arrange it such that the motor would not go more than
> 20% above normal speeds under these conditions.)
>
> > Second what do the torque curves of a servo look like.
>
> Given sufficient resources (current and voltage as described above)
> a good PWM servo amp should provide totally linear torque curves
> out to the full rating points of the motor. The torque is
> to current within a couple of percent, independant of voltage orspeed.
> The speed should also be linear within a few percent, under no-loadapplied,
> conditions. Armature resistance comes into play when load is
> but a velocity servo amp compensates for this.
>
> The ability to deliver peak torque all the way up the RPM curve
> is what distinguishes a servo system from a stepper system.
>
> Jon
Discussion Thread
Jon Elson
2000-11-24 22:16:09 UTC
Re: Clifton motors
Wally K
2000-11-25 04:18:25 UTC
wrong guy, but have servo question.
r_fl_z@h...
2000-11-25 14:27:06 UTC
Re: wrong guy, but have servo question.
Wally K
2000-11-25 14:46:31 UTC
Re: wrong guy, but have servo question.
r_fl_z@h...
2000-11-25 14:52:28 UTC
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2000-11-25 20:13:18 UTC
Re: wrong guy, but have servo question.
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2000-11-25 20:49:14 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] wrong guy, but have servo question.
Jon Elson
2000-11-25 21:25:43 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: wrong guy, but have servo question.
Jon Elson
2000-11-25 21:30:04 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Clifton motors
Wally K
2000-11-25 23:37:43 UTC
Re: wrong guy, but have servo question.
Wally K
2000-11-25 23:59:51 UTC
Servo questions.
Jon Elson
2000-11-27 00:06:45 UTC
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Jon Elson
2000-11-27 00:10:47 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Servo questions.
Wally K
2000-11-27 06:06:32 UTC
Re: wrong guy, but have servo question.
Carey L. Culpepper
2000-11-27 06:28:47 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: wrong guy, but have servo question.
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2000-11-27 06:38:09 UTC
Re: wrong guy, but have servo question.
Marcus & Eva
2000-11-27 07:58:46 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: wrong guy, but have servo question.
Wally K
2000-11-27 10:18:11 UTC
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2000-11-27 11:44:06 UTC
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2000-11-27 12:14:10 UTC
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2000-11-27 12:49:15 UTC
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2000-11-27 13:01:34 UTC
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2000-11-27 14:34:36 UTC
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2000-11-27 15:31:22 UTC
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2000-11-27 19:10:53 UTC
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2000-11-27 23:00:24 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: wrong guy, but have servo question.
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2000-11-27 23:10:42 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Timing Belt Sizing
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2000-11-28 01:02:30 UTC
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Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: wrong guy, but have servo question.
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2000-11-28 12:30:19 UTC
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Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: wrong guy, but have servo question.
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Re: Re: wrong guy, but have servo question.
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Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: wrong guy, but have servo question.
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2000-11-28 20:01:18 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: wrong guy, but have servo question.
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2000-11-28 21:49:20 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: wrong guy, but have servo question.
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2000-11-29 16:23:22 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Timing Belt Sizing
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2000-11-29 21:56:11 UTC
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2002-07-22 10:15:18 UTC
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