Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: wrong guy, but have servo question.
Posted by
Jon Elson
on 2000-11-27 23:00:24 UTC
Marcus & Eva wrote:
designed for, and should expect trouble. I would not ever take such a
cut on my machine, no matter what the quill position! I might approach this
on an easy-cutting aluminum, but never in steel! (I only have a 1 HP motor,
so it wouldn't get very far, anyway, before the motor stalled.)
When I upgraded my machine to a J head, I got a bunch of 3/4 and 1"
cutters, and rapidly found out that they really didn't improve metal
removal rate. To use big cutters like that, you need to make very
heavy cuts at high feed rates, and the 1 Hp Bridgport just doesn't have
the power or stiffness to handle it. It works a lot better to spin a smaller
tool faster, and take less feed per tooth, but more teeth/minute. I did some
work hogging out pockets in some really large hot-rolled steel billets,
and used the larger cutters, but it was slow going. If I got too
ambitious, either the work or the head knuckle slipped.
Jon
> Hi all:Well, SURE! You are making cuts that the Bridgeport Series-I is not really
> What I was actually referring to here, was the consequence of having the
> quill extended, not the presence of the "knuckles for tipping the head
> (although you are quite correct that their presence reduces the stiffness of
> the mill also.)
> As an example of what I mean, try this test:
> Take a 1" dia 2 flute carbide cutter, and take a 0.125" pass in prehardened
> 4140 or P20, with the quill up and clamped. Stick an indicator against the
> quill as you take the cut and watch it bounce around.
> Now drop the quill its full 5" and clamp it lightly, so you can still slide
> it up and down with the handle.
> Try taking the same cut again, and you will soon see what I mean; if you
> don't instantly destroy the cutter, that is.
> I have found very few quill type mills that can pass this test, in fact the
> only one I can remember was a Pedersen mill that had a quill about 6"
> diameter and a massive head that was not tiltable.
designed for, and should expect trouble. I would not ever take such a
cut on my machine, no matter what the quill position! I might approach this
on an easy-cutting aluminum, but never in steel! (I only have a 1 HP motor,
so it wouldn't get very far, anyway, before the motor stalled.)
When I upgraded my machine to a J head, I got a bunch of 3/4 and 1"
cutters, and rapidly found out that they really didn't improve metal
removal rate. To use big cutters like that, you need to make very
heavy cuts at high feed rates, and the 1 Hp Bridgport just doesn't have
the power or stiffness to handle it. It works a lot better to spin a smaller
tool faster, and take less feed per tooth, but more teeth/minute. I did some
work hogging out pockets in some really large hot-rolled steel billets,
and used the larger cutters, but it was slow going. If I got too
ambitious, either the work or the head knuckle slipped.
Jon
Discussion Thread
Jon Elson
2000-11-24 22:16:09 UTC
Re: Clifton motors
Wally K
2000-11-25 04:18:25 UTC
wrong guy, but have servo question.
r_fl_z@h...
2000-11-25 14:27:06 UTC
Re: wrong guy, but have servo question.
Wally K
2000-11-25 14:46:31 UTC
Re: wrong guy, but have servo question.
r_fl_z@h...
2000-11-25 14:52:28 UTC
Re: Clifton motors
Mariss Freimanis
2000-11-25 20:13:18 UTC
Re: wrong guy, but have servo question.
Jon Elson
2000-11-25 20:49:14 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] wrong guy, but have servo question.
Jon Elson
2000-11-25 21:25:43 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: wrong guy, but have servo question.
Jon Elson
2000-11-25 21:30:04 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Clifton motors
Wally K
2000-11-25 23:37:43 UTC
Re: wrong guy, but have servo question.
Wally K
2000-11-25 23:59:51 UTC
Servo questions.
Jon Elson
2000-11-27 00:06:45 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: wrong guy, but have servo question.
Jon Elson
2000-11-27 00:10:47 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Servo questions.
Wally K
2000-11-27 06:06:32 UTC
Re: wrong guy, but have servo question.
Carey L. Culpepper
2000-11-27 06:28:47 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: wrong guy, but have servo question.
Wally K
2000-11-27 06:38:09 UTC
Re: wrong guy, but have servo question.
Marcus & Eva
2000-11-27 07:58:46 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: wrong guy, but have servo question.
Wally K
2000-11-27 10:18:11 UTC
Z axis conversion
Hugh Currin
2000-11-27 11:44:06 UTC
Re: Z axis conversion
Wally K
2000-11-27 12:14:10 UTC
Re: Z axis conversion
Hugh Currin
2000-11-27 12:49:15 UTC
Re: Z axis conversion
Wally K
2000-11-27 13:01:34 UTC
Re: Z axis conversion
JanRwl@A...
2000-11-27 14:34:36 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: wrong guy, but have servo question.
Hugh Currin
2000-11-27 15:31:22 UTC
Stepper Motor Wiring ?
Hugh Currin
2000-11-27 15:31:23 UTC
Timing Belt Sizing
Hugh Currin
2000-11-27 15:31:26 UTC
Electronic Box Shielding ?
JanRwl@A...
2000-11-27 16:13:01 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Electronic Box Shielding ?
Jon Elson
2000-11-27 16:33:48 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: wrong guy, but have servo question.
Jon Elson
2000-11-27 16:40:17 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Timing Belt Sizing
Jon Elson
2000-11-27 16:42:43 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Electronic Box Shielding ?
Tim Goldstein
2000-11-27 16:56:54 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Stepper Motor Wiring ?
Wally K
2000-11-27 17:01:25 UTC
Re: Stepper Motor Wiring ?
Mariss Freimanis
2000-11-27 17:17:48 UTC
Re: Electronic Box Shielding ?
Wally K
2000-11-27 17:32:57 UTC
Re: Timing Belt Sizing
Wally K
2000-11-27 17:43:27 UTC
Re: Timing Belt Sizing
Carey L. Culpepper
2000-11-27 17:52:41 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Timing Belt Sizing
Wally K
2000-11-27 18:04:22 UTC
Re: Electronic Box Shielding ?
Wally K
2000-11-27 18:24:49 UTC
Re: Timing Belt Sizing
Carey L. Culpepper
2000-11-27 18:46:31 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Timing Belt Sizing
Marcus & Eva
2000-11-27 19:10:53 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: wrong guy, but have servo question.
Hugh Currin
2000-11-27 20:28:17 UTC
Re: Electronic Box Shielding ?
JanRwl@A...
2000-11-27 20:37:38 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Stepper Motor Wiring ?
JanRwl@A...
2000-11-27 20:41:36 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Timing Belt Sizing
Mariss Freimanis
2000-11-27 20:59:39 UTC
Re: Electronic Box Shielding ?
Jon Elson
2000-11-27 23:00:24 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: wrong guy, but have servo question.
Jon Elson
2000-11-27 23:10:42 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Timing Belt Sizing
Wally K
2000-11-28 01:02:30 UTC
What is a head knuckle
ballendo@y...
2000-11-28 01:23:52 UTC
re:What is a head knuckle
Smoke
2000-11-28 01:51:19 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] re:What is a head knuckle
ptengin@a...
2000-11-28 02:17:25 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Timing Belt Sizing
Marcus & Eva
2000-11-28 07:40:47 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: wrong guy, but have servo question.
dave engvall
2000-11-28 08:11:07 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: wrong guy, but have servo question.
Smoke
2000-11-28 10:25:59 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: wrong guy, but have servo question.
Jon Elson
2000-11-28 12:30:19 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] What is a head knuckle
Jon Elson
2000-11-28 12:51:01 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: wrong guy, but have servo question.
ballendo@y...
2000-11-28 14:09:22 UTC
Re: Re: wrong guy, but have servo question.
ptengin@a...
2000-11-28 15:22:05 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: wrong guy, but have servo question.
dave engvall
2000-11-28 20:01:18 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: wrong guy, but have servo question.
Marcus & Eva
2000-11-28 21:49:20 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: wrong guy, but have servo question.
Doug Harrison
2000-11-29 16:23:22 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Timing Belt Sizing
Wally K
2000-11-29 17:15:04 UTC
Re: Timing Belt Sizing
ballendo@y...
2000-11-29 18:23:42 UTC
Re: Re: Timing Belt Sizing
Jon Elson
2000-11-29 21:56:11 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Timing Belt Sizing
no falloff
2002-07-22 07:25:34 UTC
Servo questions.
Jon Elson
2002-07-22 10:07:42 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Servo questions.
Peter Seddon
2002-07-22 10:15:18 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Servo questions.