Re: Hardware Lock or Sim
Posted by
cadman@p...
on 2001-04-17 09:55:07 UTC
Cadkey had gone through some very bad times at that time. The CEO
Livingston Jeffries was doing a bad job of running his company. I am
sure glad that "Baystate Technologies" has taken over the business.
Things are much better now.
The company you are talking about was called "Keysafe." My first
company I worked for used their software so we could put the "keys" in
a safe place. I'm sure glad that Cadkey does not use the dongle
anymore, at least for the USA. For many years we (USA) had no
protection at all, just a S/N. Now they are moving to FlexLM.
I talked to Cadkey about giving out an old version of their software.
I thought that maybe people in this group, or others that can't afford
the $3000.00 to $4000.00 dollars for current Cadkey would benefit by
this action. Cadkey would look good in the public eye for letting an
old version of their software out to public domain. But the answer I
got back from them was NO. They said that if I had copies of older
versions that I could give them away. By sending a letter to Cadkey
with the licnese number and the name of the new owner, they would
transfer the license to the new owner.
Now I wished I'd kept all thoes old Cadkey CD's and manuals. I tossed
out around 60 copies of old licensed Cadkey products about a year ago.
I now only have one copy of each old version of Cadkey, just because I
wanted to keep a record of versions we have used.
CADMAN
Livingston Jeffries was doing a bad job of running his company. I am
sure glad that "Baystate Technologies" has taken over the business.
Things are much better now.
The company you are talking about was called "Keysafe." My first
company I worked for used their software so we could put the "keys" in
a safe place. I'm sure glad that Cadkey does not use the dongle
anymore, at least for the USA. For many years we (USA) had no
protection at all, just a S/N. Now they are moving to FlexLM.
I talked to Cadkey about giving out an old version of their software.
I thought that maybe people in this group, or others that can't afford
the $3000.00 to $4000.00 dollars for current Cadkey would benefit by
this action. Cadkey would look good in the public eye for letting an
old version of their software out to public domain. But the answer I
got back from them was NO. They said that if I had copies of older
versions that I could give them away. By sending a letter to Cadkey
with the licnese number and the name of the new owner, they would
transfer the license to the new owner.
Now I wished I'd kept all thoes old Cadkey CD's and manuals. I tossed
out around 60 copies of old licensed Cadkey products about a year ago.
I now only have one copy of each old version of Cadkey, just because I
wanted to keep a record of versions we have used.
CADMAN
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., dougrasmussen@c... wrote:
> John,
>
> A few years back a company up in Canada advertised they would
"crack"
> your software so the key was not needed. I believe their ads
> addressed the very problem you had. It seemed to me they required
> you to send the original disks which a pirate would not have, of
> course. So in cases like yours, that would seem to be a legitimate
> process to go through.
>
> BTW, did Cadkey return your materials?
>
> I also had a bad experience with the Cadkey people. I bought their
> CAM product, called Cutting Edge. Those of us that purchased it
> through a reputable machine dealer were assured this was to be one
of
> their mainline products and would be expanded and fully supported.
> Not the case...they promptly dropped the product.
>
> Doug
>
>
>
>
> --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., "John Guenther" <jguenther@l...> wrote:
> > I don't condone pirated software either, but these companies
really
> treat
> > you like crap if you need to replace one of those hardware locks.
> Case in
> > point, I had a copy of CadKey which was totally legal, purchased
> from a
> > former employer / reseller as shrink wrapped product. I lost the
> parallel
> > port lock several years ago, and was told that in order to obtain
> another
> > one I needed to return the entire product, software,
documentation,
> license,
> > keyboard templates and all to CadKey along with the original
> purchase
> > receipt. I did so, but the end result was that I did not get the
> > replacement lock because they could not verify the purchase
because
> my
> > former employer is out of business. There goes a 4 grand software
> package
> > down the crapper!!
> >
> > You would think that since the product was registerd when newly
> installed
> > with the manufacturer that their records would show that I was the
> original
> > purchaser and that a new lock would be made available to me. Not
> so in this
> > case, even providing a copy of the original mailed in registraton
> form did
> > no good. They would not accept me as the original purchaser, but
> they sure
> > could send me lots of junk in the mail about new products.
> >
> > John Guenther
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Roland Friestad [mailto:cardinal.eng@g...]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 8:40 AM
> > > To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y...
> > > Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Hardware Lock or Sim
> > >
> > >
> > > Just a comment - Another point of view -
> > >
> > > While I don't condone pirated software either, I get pretty
tired
> > > of having
> > > to carry around those blasted hardware locks to use with my
> laptops - My
> > > software is legal but I've actually got one setup that requires
4
> hardware
> > > locks all plugged into the same parallel port - I'd love to have
> some sort
> > > of work-around to eliminate the problem - Plus if you ever lose
> > > one of them
> > > the software companies treat you like a criminal if you try to
> > > get another one -
> > >
> > > Roland
> > >
> > >
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2001-04-14 12:35:51 UTC
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2001-04-14 12:51:18 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Hardware Lock or Sim
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2001-04-16 10:29:16 UTC
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2001-04-16 16:54:58 UTC
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2001-04-16 17:26:02 UTC
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2001-04-16 19:13:09 UTC
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2001-04-16 19:55:55 UTC
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2001-04-16 20:16:01 UTC
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dave engvall
2001-04-16 20:23:01 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Hardware Lock or Sim
diazden
2001-04-17 00:59:42 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Hardware Lock or Sim
Roland Friestad
2001-04-17 05:44:38 UTC
Re: Hardware Lock or Sim
John Guenther
2001-04-17 06:14:12 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Hardware Lock or Sim
dougrasmussen@c...
2001-04-17 07:23:19 UTC
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Fred Smith
2001-04-17 08:24:35 UTC
Re: Hardware Lock or Sim
Marcus & Eva
2001-04-17 08:42:53 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Hardware Lock or Sim
Marcus & Eva
2001-04-17 08:45:25 UTC
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2001-04-17 08:56:53 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Hardware Lock or Sim
Art Fenerty
2001-04-17 09:12:16 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Hardware Lock or Sim
stratton@m...
2001-04-17 09:16:10 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Hardware Lock or Sim
Art Fenerty
2001-04-17 09:31:24 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Hardware Lock or Sim
cadman@p...
2001-04-17 09:55:07 UTC
Re: Hardware Lock or Sim
Carol & Jerry Jankura
2001-04-17 11:10:24 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Hardware Lock or Sim
John Stevenson
2001-04-17 13:52:54 UTC
Re: Hardware Lock or Sim
Jon Elson
2001-04-17 15:20:10 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Hardware Lock or Sim
Doug Harrison
2001-04-17 16:57:06 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Hardware Lock or Sim
Doug Harrison
2001-04-17 17:03:21 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Hardware Lock or Sim
Doug Harrison
2001-04-17 17:13:16 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Hardware Lock or Sim
Ian Wright
2001-04-18 00:13:18 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Hardware Lock or Sim
Smoke
2001-04-19 09:04:20 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Hardware Lock or Sim
Smoke
2001-04-19 09:18:30 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Hardware Lock or Sim