Re: Hexapod question
Posted by
ballendo
on 2003-12-12 06:42:31 UTC
Ray,
That is the only one that is going to be accurate without
compensation. As Mikkelson's machine shows, you can do without ball
ends. BUT every fullsize realworld machining oriented hexapod I've
ever seen or heard about uses ballends. (I don't know the details of
Till F's full size mill.)
Several commented that ball ends would rotate, making extension
impossible, or impractical. Just ain't so. Any more than an actuator
has wildly spinning ends because of the ball or acme screw turning
within...
Hope this helps,
Ballendo
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "Raymond Heckert" <jnr@a...>
wrote:
That is the only one that is going to be accurate without
compensation. As Mikkelson's machine shows, you can do without ball
ends. BUT every fullsize realworld machining oriented hexapod I've
ever seen or heard about uses ballends. (I don't know the details of
Till F's full size mill.)
Several commented that ball ends would rotate, making extension
impossible, or impractical. Just ain't so. Any more than an actuator
has wildly spinning ends because of the ball or acme screw turning
within...
Hope this helps,
Ballendo
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "Raymond Heckert" <jnr@a...>
wrote:
> I think the best (only) usable joint is that each strut end must bemating
> hemispherical (a half-ball) that mates with the hemisphere of the
> strut, constrained in a ball-socket.disagree with
>
> RayHex
>
> ----------
> > From: Kevin Martin <kpmartin@t...>
> >
> > I may not be able to explain exactly *why*, but I have to
> you,joint can
> > ballendo...
> > If the two cross-axes of the U-joint are in the same plane the
> > flex in any direction without any change in "length", which isthe same
> > motion as you would get with a ball joint whose centre was wherethe
> U-joint*rotary*
> > cross-axes met.
> >
> > What a U-joint does *not* give you is smooth transmission of
> motiontwice the
> > as one shaft of the joint rotates the other.
> >
> > And of course, a U-joint it really two joints in series, so has
> > play of a ball joint built to the same clearances.satisfy the
> >
> > It is difficult to tell from the photos whether the U-joints
> > above geometry; at first glance they appear to.the
> > I am actually not convinced that having extended u-joints (where
> > cross-axes are not coplanar) produces more degrees of freedomeither,
> > although it does complicate the positioning math, and mayincrease the
> > effects of play and frame flex. I have certainly seen photos ofto find
> commercial
> > hexapods which do not use ball joints (not that I would be able
> one
> > now).
> > -Kevin Martin
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