Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] nema 34 motors on BP series 1 conversionnccq

On Fri Sep 24 13:30:17 2004 Andy Wander wrote:

>
>I still think you're misunderstanding this, Ron.
>
>Torque is measured in distance times force. The further out you go along the
>radius(the longer the "lever"), the less force you will need to generate an
>equivalent torque.
>
>The "slash" means a division is taking place, and is used in things like
>ft/s (feet per second).
>
>The importance of the terminology is that when you use these terms, and
>enter them into equations to calculate other parameters, the units are
>multiplied and divided along with the numbers that are associated with them.
>
>So, for instance, ft/s per second is also "feet-per-second-squared"(I can't
>show it in ASCII), but it means "s squared" under the slash, under the feet.
>
>And what I am saying is that if the incorrect symbols are used, it is easier
>for people who don't know that it's wrong to learn the wrong thing, and also
>to have a basic misunderstanding of what is going on.
>
>Andy Wander
>Verrex Corporation
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>From: R Rogers [mailto:rogersmach@...]
>Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 4:16 PM
>To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] nema 34 motors on BP series 1
>conversion
>
>I said moment, not movement. Its force applied to the diameter. The force
>being 1 ounce and the radius being 1" Its 1 ounce force PER 1 inch radius
>imposed on the axis. Or 1oz/in...lol If we used bananas for weight and
>force in the same configuration it would be 1 ba/in. Sorry, I'm in one of
>those moods today. Its irrelevant what symbols are used as long as its
>understood. I don't see how putting a slash between the force and moment
>could be misconstrued.
>
>Ron
>Andy Wander <awander@...> wrote:
>Well, actually, no.
>
>It is lb*in or oz*in.
>
>That's a multiplication, not a division.
>
>Think of it this way-a shaft needs a certain amount of torque to turn it. I
>can apply 1lb at a 2 inch radius, or 2lb at a 1 inch radius. I get 2 lb-in
>either way.
>
>The "distance" is not the amount of movement, but the distance from the
>center of rotation.
>
>Hope this helps,
>
>Andy Wander
>Verrex Corporation
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: R Rogers [mailto:rogersmach@...]
>Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 3:42 PM
>To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] nema 34 motors on BP series 1
>conversion
>
>Well if you want to get technical it really is lb/in and oz/in. Rotational
>torque is rated in this manner. A 2" disc mounted upon a horizontal shaft
>and a 1 ounce weight suspend ed from its outer diameter at a horizontal
>plane from the axis would constitute 1 ounce of force PER 1" of moment, 1"
>moment being the radius. Or 1 oz/in.
>
>Ron
>
>
>Andy Wander wrote:
>Thank you......
>
>I wouldn't care so much if it were not for the possibility that people will
>try to use the units quoted in an equation, with the result that they will
>be more convinced than ever that this is all black magic.
>
>Andy Wander
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: R Rogers [mailto:rogersmach@...]
>Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 2:52 PM
>To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] nema 34 motors on BP series 1
>conversion
>
>lb-in...is that better? lol
>
>Andy Wander wrote:It's lb-in or in-lb or lb*in or
>in*lb(pronounced "inch pounds" or "pound
>inches"), NOT lb/in(pounds per inch) or in/lb(inches per pound).
>
>Whew! I feel better now.....
>
>Andy Wander
>Verrex Corporation
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Addresses:
>FAQ: http://www.ktmarketing.com/faq.html
>FILES: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO/files/
>Post Messages: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
>
>Subscribe: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
>Unsubscribe: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>List owner: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO-owner@yahoogroups.com, wanliker@..., timg@...
>Moderator: pentam@... indigo_red@... davemucha@... [Moderators]
>URL to this group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO
>
>OFF Topic POSTS: General Machining
>If you wish to post on unlimited OT subjects goto: aol://5863:126/rec.crafts.metalworking or go thru Google.com to reach it if you have trouble.
>http://www.metalworking.com/news_servers.html
>
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jobshophomeshop I consider this to be a sister site to the CCED group, as many of the same members are there, for OT subjects, that are not allowed on the CCED list.
>
>NOTICE: ALL POSTINGS TO THIS GROUP BECOME PUBLIC DOMAIN BY POSTING THEM. DON'T POST IF YOU CAN NOT ACCEPT THIS.....NO EXCEPTIONS........
>bill
>List Mom
>List Owner
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>

--
********************************************************************************
* *
RKBA! * Blessings on thee, oh Israel!!! * 4-19!
* *
********************************************************************************

An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured by | All Matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no
weapon in every | by Colt; | --Max Planck | weapon, sell his
hand = Freedom | Dial | In the beginning was the | garment, and buy a
on every side!! | 1-911-A1 | Word. --The Holy Bible | sword. --Jesus Christ

********************************************************************************

Constitutional Government is dead! LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!!!

********************************************************************************