Re: Bridgeport servo motors
Posted by
cnc_4_me
on 2005-02-04 14:51:20 UTC
Hi Scott, i was thinking about your setup some more and I am sure you
should use at least a 3 to 1 reduction. In the example below I
estimated your continuous torque by dividing your peak torque by 5.
I used 5 because many servos work out this way, but many also work
out to be 7. If you divide your peak torque by 7 you get 600 / 7 =
85.7 oz-in = 5.4 in-lb. Multiply this x 3-1 belt reduction = 16 lb-
in, or just enough power for heavy cut in steel (using my friends
estimation of force on hand wheel).
You also may have a little reserve in there, as Jon Elson pointed out
your peak torque may be 880 0z-in not 600. The reason being your
torque constant per amp is 44 oz-in and your peak safe current is 20
amps. Multiply them and get 880 oz-in. This would give you 880oz-in
= 55lb-in / 7 = 7.86 lb-in x 3-1 belting = 23.6 lb-in with 15 lb-in
estimated needed.
Wally
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "Polaraligned"
<polaraligned@o...> wrote:
should use at least a 3 to 1 reduction. In the example below I
estimated your continuous torque by dividing your peak torque by 5.
I used 5 because many servos work out this way, but many also work
out to be 7. If you divide your peak torque by 7 you get 600 / 7 =
85.7 oz-in = 5.4 in-lb. Multiply this x 3-1 belt reduction = 16 lb-
in, or just enough power for heavy cut in steel (using my friends
estimation of force on hand wheel).
You also may have a little reserve in there, as Jon Elson pointed out
your peak torque may be 880 0z-in not 600. The reason being your
torque constant per amp is 44 oz-in and your peak safe current is 20
amps. Multiply them and get 880 oz-in. This would give you 880oz-in
= 55lb-in / 7 = 7.86 lb-in x 3-1 belting = 23.6 lb-in with 15 lb-in
estimated needed.
Wally
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "Polaraligned"
<polaraligned@o...> wrote:
> > Well, this is what my research shows on required torque, speed,and
> > reduction ratio.commercial
> >
> > Most people on this forum agree the servo size used for
> > Bridgeport retrofits is around 30 lb-in or 480 oz-in.to
>
>
> So this is the Peak torque rating for these motors?? I have been
> assuming that this is a continuous rating and my motors are a little
> small as opposed to being a little big.
>
>
>
> > Also I seem to
> > be getting the consensus that the pulley reduction is around 2-1
> > 2.5-1.has a
> >
> > Now let's look at a practical example. A friend has been using a
> > Bridgeport for 15 years. He is estimating that on average with a
> > heavy cut he is pushing 5 lb on the hand wheel. The hand wheel
> > 3" lever length. So 3" x 5 lb = 15 in-lb continuous torqueneeded.
> >this
> > You motor has a peak rating of 37.5 lb-in. Estimating constant
> > torque we would divide peak by 5 = 7.5 lb-in. So you need 2x
> > number for the estimated 15lb-in force required. This tells meyou
> > need a minimum of 2-1 belt reduction.less
> >
> > As you noted earlier more reduction gives you more power but
> > speed. A 3-1 reduction would give you a 22.5 lb-in at 80 IPM. Afeed on
> > nice continuous torque rating but a little slow on rapids.
> >
> > Lets talk about 80 IPM, I can tell you this. A typical power
> > a Bridgeport will give you a maximum speed of around 90IPM. Ifyou
> > have access to one of these you can see for yourself if you likethis
> > speed.has
> >
> > From a personal standpoint, and this is coming from someone who
> > no patience .I get irritated using the power feed to go from oneside
> > of the table to the other. One time I actually disengaged it andwas
> > turned the crank by hand because I thought I could go faster (I
> > wrong). The reason for going from one side of the table to otherwas
> > I had 2 setups on the table, one on each endmy
> >
> > With that in mind I am shooting for a rapid of 120 IPM minimum on
> > machine.or 3-
> >
> > With all that said, if I were you I would probably go with 2.5
> > 1 ratio, a fast rapid is nice. But if you can't take the cut youlimit
> > want it doesn't do you any good.
> >
> > I also think you should use a 70 volt supply, with your current
> > set to 20 amps. This way you will get maximum RPM withoutrunning
> > over current.
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