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Re: Wood Duck redux

Posted by ballendo
on 2006-05-10 00:47:29 UTC
Here?<G>

Not now. At the end of the month, yes.

Until then, you can read what I wrote about both versions awhile ago
on the CNC Toolkit group.

That's the group for Rab Gordon's 5 axis toolpath creating product.

It--the CNC Toolkit--is getting some GREAT support from Graham
Stabler with some easy to understand videos; which is allowing folks
who previously glazed over in looking at it, to stand up and take
notice.

Ballendo


--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, "lewis" <lewis@...> wrote:
>
> Ballendo, Can you talk more about your rotary units?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ballendo" <ballendo@...>
> To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:56 AM
> Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Wood Duck redux
>
>
> > Dave,
> >
> > Thank you for the comments.
> >
> > You will definitely want to have a look at k2cnc.com. They offer
> > aluminum machines sans electronics at very fair prices.
> >
> > A lot of folks say they want the room under the gantry; IME few
> > actually use it. Making tall gantry's very quickly changes a
machine
> > from works well to something often less suitable. The forces and
> > material demands go up geometrically.
> >
> > I've set the material thickness as that suitable for working on a
> > 4x4 post. More importantly, with this on the table you CAN either
> > work all the way through it with special tooling... or work from
> > each side to the middle with standard tooling.
> >
> > There are more than a few designs which have poorly implemented z
> > axes. Often this is a result of saving the Z axis for thelast
part
> > of the design process. You read that all the time on
CNCzone "build
> > logs".
> >
> > I believe you should START with the expected material sizes and
> > thickness ranges, then design the z travel and its relationship
to
> > the spindle tool, material and machine, THEN the XY and all the
> > rest... The z axis is the heart of the machine.
> >
> > We won't be offering incomplete kits, but we will offer parts and
> > bits for those who want to go that route<pun intended<G>. There's
> > already some of that available; with more to come...
> >
> > Ballendo
> >
> > P.S. I've only recently been considering increasing the space
under
> > the gantry of the wood Ducks to accomodate a ROTATING 4x4, since
my
> > rotary units will work with these machines. But a lot has to
change
> > to do that; and the current setup can "swing a" 3-1/4 square
> > workpice in rotation, which will accomodate most furniture needs.
> > So it'll likely stay as its been during the last year of testing
and
> > use.
> >
> > --- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com, Codesuidae <codesuidae@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > ballendo wrote:
> > > > What if you could just buy a FULL, COMPLETE kit for a
12x12x4-
> > 1/2"
> > > > travel Gantry router CNC machine, with plug-together
> > electronics,
> > > > and pre-configured PC-based cnc controller for $995?
> > > >
> > >
> > > While I'm not currently in the market for a machine I will be
in
> > about
> > > six months. This sounds interesting if it can do some light
work
> > in
> > > aluminum and brass and I can get it sans- motors and
controller.
> > The Z
> > > axis 3-5/8" height sounds limiting, but I think the majority of
> > the
> > > items I work with fit into that. I would prefer to be able to
fit
> > > thicker items on the table, even if the working range was the
> > same. For
> > > example, I'd like to be able to put n 8 inch plank on it, work
to
> > a 3"
> > > depth, then flip the plank and work on the other side.
> > >
> > > > If I post pictures[...]
> > > >
> > >
> > > I'd sure like to see some pictures :)
> > >
> > > > The product now arrives fully ASSEMBLED in a 24x24x24 box,
and
> > is
> > > > made of Phenolic-faced Baltic Birch plywood. BUT it NOW costs
> > $1450.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Not for me, I like assembling things, provided the
documentation
> > is
> > > reasonable.
> > >
> > > > OR... What if it was the same as described above fully
> > assembled;
> > > > BUT has a frame of 1/2" aluminum, and VXB linear bearings on
> > 18mm
> > > > rods in XY, and 16mm rods for Z. All else remains the same.
But
> > now
> > > > it costs $1995.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I'd be most interested in the aluminum version, unassembled
> > without
> > > motors and controller. This gives me the best machine at the
end
> > while
> > > utilizing my time and skills to keep the cost down. It also
helps
> > > satisfy my desire to put stuff together and better understand
the
> > > machine, without frustrating me with too many details of parts
> > selection
> > > and fabrication.
> > >
> > > Dave K
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Addresses:
> > FAQ: http://www.ktmarketing.com/faq.html
> > FILES: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO/files/
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