Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Microstepping thru the Tulips
Posted by
Jon Elson
on 2006-08-13 22:17:06 UTC
Phil Mattison wrote:
(10X microstepping).
With a 200 full-step/rev motor, that is 50 revs/second, or 3000 RPM. Do
you really intend
to run stepper motors at this speed? I have run steppers with a Gecko
201A drive up
to 1440 RPM, and that was sure enough for me. At these speeds, the
inductance of the
motor winding is a HUGE factor, and I believe the motor current may
approach a pure
sinusoid because the drive will use a 100% PWM duty cycle as it attempts
to drive
rated current through the windings. If not, the current will be linear
ramps that never
reach rated current before the transistors switch to the next phase
polarity. The back-
EMF becomes pretty dominant at these speeds, and the phase shift between
voltage and
current complicates the equation.
Jon
>Perhaps, but a 100KHz microstep rate and a 20KHz PWM frequency implies that100KHz into a Gecko 201-series drive is 10,000 full steps per second
>the coil current is modified five times in a single cycle of the PWM, which
>is absurd. In that case, the PWM (or chopper, whatever) cannot produce the
>power modulation that is supposed to be the big deal with microstepping. Any
>microstep rate above the PWM frequency renders it meaningless. What you end
>up with in practice is a single-step driver.
>
>
(10X microstepping).
With a 200 full-step/rev motor, that is 50 revs/second, or 3000 RPM. Do
you really intend
to run stepper motors at this speed? I have run steppers with a Gecko
201A drive up
to 1440 RPM, and that was sure enough for me. At these speeds, the
inductance of the
motor winding is a HUGE factor, and I believe the motor current may
approach a pure
sinusoid because the drive will use a 100% PWM duty cycle as it attempts
to drive
rated current through the windings. If not, the current will be linear
ramps that never
reach rated current before the transistors switch to the next phase
polarity. The back-
EMF becomes pretty dominant at these speeds, and the phase shift between
voltage and
current complicates the equation.
Jon
Discussion Thread
Phil Mattison
2006-08-13 11:35:32 UTC
Microstepping thru the Tulips
Mariss Freimanis
2006-08-13 12:50:54 UTC
Re: Microstepping thru the Tulips
turbulatordude
2006-08-13 13:57:07 UTC
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Mariss Freimanis
2006-08-13 15:18:28 UTC
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Wayne C. Gramlich
2006-08-13 18:08:18 UTC
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Phil Mattison
2006-08-13 18:21:29 UTC
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Steve Stallings
2006-08-13 18:44:08 UTC
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2006-08-13 19:18:36 UTC
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Jon Elson
2006-08-13 22:17:06 UTC
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John Dammeyer
2006-08-13 23:54:31 UTC
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lcdpublishing
2006-08-14 04:44:35 UTC
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Graham Stabler
2006-08-14 05:04:52 UTC
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2006-08-14 08:36:25 UTC
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Steve Stallings
2006-08-14 09:18:00 UTC
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2006-08-14 09:33:08 UTC
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2006-08-14 17:39:57 UTC
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Dennis Schmitz
2006-08-14 19:41:24 UTC
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turbulatordude
2006-08-14 19:48:01 UTC
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2006-08-14 20:21:07 UTC
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Henrik Olsson
2006-08-15 02:58:01 UTC
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turbulatordude
2006-08-15 07:23:23 UTC
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Phil Mattison
2006-08-15 08:27:33 UTC
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lcdpublishing
2006-08-15 08:55:36 UTC
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Les Newell
2006-08-15 09:26:27 UTC
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Les Newell
2006-08-15 09:32:56 UTC
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Mariss Freimanis
2006-08-15 10:16:27 UTC
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2006-08-15 12:13:26 UTC
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Mariss Freimanis
2006-08-15 13:37:34 UTC
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2006-08-15 16:03:35 UTC
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2006-08-15 17:43:39 UTC
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Mariss Freimanis
2006-08-15 20:00:13 UTC
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Graham Stabler
2006-08-16 02:18:22 UTC
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Les Newell
2006-08-16 02:26:25 UTC
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turbulatordude
2006-08-16 08:53:07 UTC
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Les Newell
2006-08-16 09:22:23 UTC
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