RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: supertech
Posted by
Paul Kelly
on 2007-08-21 16:19:46 UTC
I think it would be nice to start recording what performance people are
seeing
from the various drivers. I am getting reports of 400 to 450mm/min on the
Taig
table using Xylotex drivers at 28V-bipolar while I am getting a good
600mm/min
with the Taig/MicroProto controller running 60V-unipolar. The
Taig/MicroProto
closed loop controller will give 1500mm/min with the same stepper motor
driver. I have yet to get the Chinese drivers hooked up to test them, but I
have had the L297/298 pair running at 24V and giving 300mm/min driving one
pair of the unipolar wired taig motors.
[Paul Kelly] OK, so you define performance as rapid speed. Or, in the
context of a discussion on driver boards, the rate at which the drive can
commute the motor.
This obviously all depends on the 'load', motor, power supply and driving
software,
[Paul Kelly] Actually, the single biggest factor affecting rapid speed is
ballscrew pitch. Apologies to those who've heard this rant before but..
If you double the pitch of your ballscrews, your stepper system with go at
least twice as fast.
After ballscrew pitch, motor inductance would be second. I know someone
people who went shopping for some NEMA23's and said; "Why would I buy a
250oz.in motor when I can get a 450 for only a few $ more!" Said person
also defines performance as rapid speed and refuses to accept that his
machine would go faster on the 250oz.in motor.
but I'm sure we can start to put together some realistic figures for
the various options of driver, and perhaps pull out combinations that simply
don't go, and onces that work well?
[Paul Kelly] I think your idea is good. If nothing else it gives people a
reality check for their machines. You should compile the data and put a
spreadsheet into the files section??
For my part.
9x20 Lathe, NEMA34 300Oz.in 297/298driver 35V 5TPI ballscrew 5m/min
12"x20" Router, NEMA23 250oz.in A3977(same as xylotex) driver, 20mm pitch
ballscrew 15m/min
[Paul Kelly] PK
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seeing
from the various drivers. I am getting reports of 400 to 450mm/min on the
Taig
table using Xylotex drivers at 28V-bipolar while I am getting a good
600mm/min
with the Taig/MicroProto controller running 60V-unipolar. The
Taig/MicroProto
closed loop controller will give 1500mm/min with the same stepper motor
driver. I have yet to get the Chinese drivers hooked up to test them, but I
have had the L297/298 pair running at 24V and giving 300mm/min driving one
pair of the unipolar wired taig motors.
[Paul Kelly] OK, so you define performance as rapid speed. Or, in the
context of a discussion on driver boards, the rate at which the drive can
commute the motor.
This obviously all depends on the 'load', motor, power supply and driving
software,
[Paul Kelly] Actually, the single biggest factor affecting rapid speed is
ballscrew pitch. Apologies to those who've heard this rant before but..
If you double the pitch of your ballscrews, your stepper system with go at
least twice as fast.
After ballscrew pitch, motor inductance would be second. I know someone
people who went shopping for some NEMA23's and said; "Why would I buy a
250oz.in motor when I can get a 450 for only a few $ more!" Said person
also defines performance as rapid speed and refuses to accept that his
machine would go faster on the 250oz.in motor.
but I'm sure we can start to put together some realistic figures for
the various options of driver, and perhaps pull out combinations that simply
don't go, and onces that work well?
[Paul Kelly] I think your idea is good. If nothing else it gives people a
reality check for their machines. You should compile the data and put a
spreadsheet into the files section??
For my part.
9x20 Lathe, NEMA34 300Oz.in 297/298driver 35V 5TPI ballscrew 5m/min
12"x20" Router, NEMA23 250oz.in A3977(same as xylotex) driver, 20mm pitch
ballscrew 15m/min
[Paul Kelly] PK
--
Lester Caine - G8HFL
-----------------------------
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L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://home.lsces.co.uk
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Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php
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Discussion Thread
Lurch
2007-08-20 07:48:38 UTC
supertech
R Rogers
2007-08-20 12:57:55 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] supertech
Lurch
2007-08-20 18:15:36 UTC
Re: supertech
Harko Schwartz
2007-08-21 03:29:54 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: supertech
Paul Kelly
2007-08-21 04:49:13 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: supertech
Lester Caine
2007-08-21 10:17:15 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: supertech
Paul Kelly
2007-08-21 16:19:46 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: supertech
Jon Elson
2007-08-21 18:01:20 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: supertech
vrsculptor
2007-08-21 21:12:43 UTC
Re: supertech
Lurch
2007-08-21 21:14:58 UTC
Solved [was Re: supertech]
Paul Kelly
2007-08-21 21:48:47 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Solved [was Re: supertech]
Jon Elson
2007-08-21 22:58:33 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: supertech
caudlet
2007-08-22 09:35:46 UTC
Solved [was Re: supertech]
Jim DuBois
2007-08-22 22:04:25 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Solved [was Re: supertech]
Andy Wander
2007-08-23 12:27:52 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Solved [was Re: supertech]
art
2007-08-23 20:33:05 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Solved [was Re: supertech]
jwettroth
2007-08-24 17:05:27 UTC
Re: supertech