Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Solved [was Re: supertech]

Andy:

One other note on that, is dont optimise unless you need to. Most dont. Not a good idea to be shutting off areas of Windows
when their not harming anyone. :)

Thanks,
Art
www.artofcnc.ca

Videos And Support Forums http://www.machsupport.com
Users Map: http://www.frappr.com/machsupport

----- Original Message -----
From: Andy Wander
To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 4:26 PM
Subject: RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Solved [was Re: supertech]


Looks to me as if Tormach simply copied the XP Optimisation file written
originally by Olivier Adler, and available on the Mach1 mach2 group.

Since they use Mach, there is no problem with them using the docs, but
Olivier should get the credit for this.

Also, if anyone attempts the optimization, note that the FIRST thing you
do should be to set the PC to "Standard PC", instead of ACPI. If you do
it down in the middle of the list, you will have to do most of the stuff
you have already done, again.

______________________________________
Andy Wander

-----Original Message-----
From: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim DuBois
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:02 PM
To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Solved [was Re: supertech]

Tormach offers a well detailed methodology of how to strip out all the
various Windoz related interrupts that allows CNC SW to manage the
machine
while running on Windows. I am running their product on a machine with
XP
as the OS. Before following their detailed process I had results like
Lurch
has reported.

I am not saying that this would solve Lurch's issues, obviously
following
Supertech's direction is the correct answer. But to the rest of us,
there
are steps that can be taken to allow some of these CNC products to
co-exist
with Windoz, be it 3.1, 95, 98, 2000, or XP. I have one machine that
runs
under DOS 6.x, one that runs under Windows 98 using the DOS option, and
one
running on XP. So, the Tormach solution of stripping out all the
superfluous stuff is working so far on my PCNC (XP). I am going to try
the
older programs on the stripped XP computer and see how that works, just
for
the fun of it. Besides that, DOS 6.x is getting a bit long in the
tooth, as
is 98...

If you are interested in how Tormach recommends stripping the XP based
computer a full manual is available on their website.it is 160+ pages
and
much of it is relevant to only the PCNC mill...Most of what may be of
interest starts on about page 152. By the way there is a fair amount of
info regarding G&M codes and the like in this manual also..there may be
more
detailed sources but Tormach has done a nice job on this manual.

I have no $$$$ interest in Tormach, just mentioning this FYI for this
group..

Jim DuBois

From: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of caudlet
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 11:35 AM
To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Solved [was Re: supertech]

--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO%40yahoogroups.com> , "Lurch" <lurch9@...> wrote:
>
> So I spoke to Dennis Bohlke at Supertech directly. He told me of an
> undocumented subroutine that exercises the steppers, a production
> burn-in type of thing. Then after some more discussion, he asked
> what operating system I was running.
>
> From what he tells me, it turns out that the version of SuperCAM I
> have, v3.6, apparently never was intended to run under Win95 or
> newer.
>
> This despite the fact there is both dossetup.bat and winsetup.exe on
> the CD. Perhaps the winsetup.exe is for win3.1 systems which still
> run the DOS kernel.
>
> Dennis DID offer to fix my controller if there were an issue with it,
> and also offered me a new version of SuperCAM for $95.
>
> So for now I merely took my dedicated p233/32mB lunchbox and
> converted it to DOS.
>
> Preliminary indications are excellent.
>
> Will post more as it develops.
>
> Alls well that ends well.
>
> Lurch
>

We have found in the past that communication with the vendor is the
best approach. SuperTech has been around for a long time and has sold
lot's of machines and has lots of satisfied customers.

We ask anyone with problems with a specific vendor to exhaust all the
options before making a negative post on the list. There are a lot of
new vendors out there and the market is dotted with semi-shady
operators. Dennis is NOT one of them.

The positive part of this is that Dennis resolved the issue and your
problem is fixed.

While it's important that the members learn of vendors with which they
should not do business it's incumbent on us to proceed carefully and
not create problems for good vendors.

We only allow first hand experiences and only if they are of relevance
to the group.

The existence of low cost providers for Home Shop CNC are what allowed
this hobby to grow exponentially. Lets be careful not hurt them.

Thanks for your feedback and letting us know of the positive response!

Tom Caudle
List Ogre

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Addresses:
FAQ: http://www.ktmarketing.com/faq.html
FILES: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO/files/
Post Messages: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com

Subscribe: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
Unsubscribe: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
List owner: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO-owner@yahoogroups.com, wanliker@...,
timg@...
Moderator: pentam@... indigo_red@... davemucha@...
[Moderators]
URL to this group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO

OFF Topic POSTS: General Machining
If you wish to post on unlimited OT subjects goto:
aol://5863:126/rec.crafts.metalworking or go thru Google.com to reach it
if you have trouble.
http://www.metalworking.com/news_servers.html

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jobshophomeshop I consider this to be a
sister site to the CCED group, as many of the same members are there,
for OT subjects, that are not allowed on the CCED list.

NOTICE: ALL POSTINGS TO THIS GROUP BECOME PUBLIC DOMAIN BY POSTING THEM.
DON'T POST IF YOU CAN NOT ACCEPT THIS.....NO EXCEPTIONS........
bill
List Mom
List Owner

Yahoo! Groups Links

This communication including any attachments, are intended
for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and contains
confidential or copyrighted materials. Duplication,
distribution or reproduction is strictly prohibited by law
without written permission of Verrex






[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]