RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Solved [was Re: supertech]
Posted by
Jim DuBois
on 2007-08-22 22:04:25 UTC
Tormach offers a well detailed methodology of how to strip out all the
various Windoz related interrupts that allows CNC SW to manage the machine
while running on Windows. I am running their product on a machine with XP
as the OS. Before following their detailed process I had results like Lurch
has reported.
I am not saying that this would solve Lurch's issues, obviously following
Supertech's direction is the correct answer. But to the rest of us, there
are steps that can be taken to allow some of these CNC products to co-exist
with Windoz, be it 3.1, 95, 98, 2000, or XP. I have one machine that runs
under DOS 6.x, one that runs under Windows 98 using the DOS option, and one
running on XP. So, the Tormach solution of stripping out all the
superfluous stuff is working so far on my PCNC (XP). I am going to try the
older programs on the stripped XP computer and see how that works, just for
the fun of it. Besides that, DOS 6.x is getting a bit long in the tooth, as
is 98...
If you are interested in how Tormach recommends stripping the XP based
computer a full manual is available on their website.it is 160+ pages and
much of it is relevant to only the PCNC mill...Most of what may be of
interest starts on about page 152. By the way there is a fair amount of
info regarding G&M codes and the like in this manual also..there may be more
detailed sources but Tormach has done a nice job on this manual.
I have no $$$$ interest in Tormach, just mentioning this FYI for this
group..
Jim DuBois
From: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of caudlet
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 11:35 AM
To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Solved [was Re: supertech]
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO%40yahoogroups.com> , "Lurch" <lurch9@...> wrote:
best approach. SuperTech has been around for a long time and has sold
lot's of machines and has lots of satisfied customers.
We ask anyone with problems with a specific vendor to exhaust all the
options before making a negative post on the list. There are a lot of
new vendors out there and the market is dotted with semi-shady
operators. Dennis is NOT one of them.
The positive part of this is that Dennis resolved the issue and your
problem is fixed.
While it's important that the members learn of vendors with which they
should not do business it's incumbent on us to proceed carefully and
not create problems for good vendors.
We only allow first hand experiences and only if they are of relevance
to the group.
The existence of low cost providers for Home Shop CNC are what allowed
this hobby to grow exponentially. Lets be careful not hurt them.
Thanks for your feedback and letting us know of the positive response!
Tom Caudle
List Ogre
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various Windoz related interrupts that allows CNC SW to manage the machine
while running on Windows. I am running their product on a machine with XP
as the OS. Before following their detailed process I had results like Lurch
has reported.
I am not saying that this would solve Lurch's issues, obviously following
Supertech's direction is the correct answer. But to the rest of us, there
are steps that can be taken to allow some of these CNC products to co-exist
with Windoz, be it 3.1, 95, 98, 2000, or XP. I have one machine that runs
under DOS 6.x, one that runs under Windows 98 using the DOS option, and one
running on XP. So, the Tormach solution of stripping out all the
superfluous stuff is working so far on my PCNC (XP). I am going to try the
older programs on the stripped XP computer and see how that works, just for
the fun of it. Besides that, DOS 6.x is getting a bit long in the tooth, as
is 98...
If you are interested in how Tormach recommends stripping the XP based
computer a full manual is available on their website.it is 160+ pages and
much of it is relevant to only the PCNC mill...Most of what may be of
interest starts on about page 152. By the way there is a fair amount of
info regarding G&M codes and the like in this manual also..there may be more
detailed sources but Tormach has done a nice job on this manual.
I have no $$$$ interest in Tormach, just mentioning this FYI for this
group..
Jim DuBois
From: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of caudlet
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 11:35 AM
To: CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Solved [was Re: supertech]
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO%40yahoogroups.com> , "Lurch" <lurch9@...> wrote:
>We have found in the past that communication with the vendor is the
> So I spoke to Dennis Bohlke at Supertech directly. He told me of an
> undocumented subroutine that exercises the steppers, a production
> burn-in type of thing. Then after some more discussion, he asked
> what operating system I was running.
>
> From what he tells me, it turns out that the version of SuperCAM I
> have, v3.6, apparently never was intended to run under Win95 or
> newer.
>
> This despite the fact there is both dossetup.bat and winsetup.exe on
> the CD. Perhaps the winsetup.exe is for win3.1 systems which still
> run the DOS kernel.
>
> Dennis DID offer to fix my controller if there were an issue with it,
> and also offered me a new version of SuperCAM for $95.
>
> So for now I merely took my dedicated p233/32mB lunchbox and
> converted it to DOS.
>
> Preliminary indications are excellent.
>
> Will post more as it develops.
>
> Alls well that ends well.
>
> Lurch
>
best approach. SuperTech has been around for a long time and has sold
lot's of machines and has lots of satisfied customers.
We ask anyone with problems with a specific vendor to exhaust all the
options before making a negative post on the list. There are a lot of
new vendors out there and the market is dotted with semi-shady
operators. Dennis is NOT one of them.
The positive part of this is that Dennis resolved the issue and your
problem is fixed.
While it's important that the members learn of vendors with which they
should not do business it's incumbent on us to proceed carefully and
not create problems for good vendors.
We only allow first hand experiences and only if they are of relevance
to the group.
The existence of low cost providers for Home Shop CNC are what allowed
this hobby to grow exponentially. Lets be careful not hurt them.
Thanks for your feedback and letting us know of the positive response!
Tom Caudle
List Ogre
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Discussion Thread
Lurch
2007-08-20 07:48:38 UTC
supertech
R Rogers
2007-08-20 12:57:55 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] supertech
Lurch
2007-08-20 18:15:36 UTC
Re: supertech
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2007-08-21 03:29:54 UTC
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2007-08-21 04:49:13 UTC
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Lester Caine
2007-08-21 10:17:15 UTC
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Paul Kelly
2007-08-21 16:19:46 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: supertech
Jon Elson
2007-08-21 18:01:20 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: supertech
vrsculptor
2007-08-21 21:12:43 UTC
Re: supertech
Lurch
2007-08-21 21:14:58 UTC
Solved [was Re: supertech]
Paul Kelly
2007-08-21 21:48:47 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Solved [was Re: supertech]
Jon Elson
2007-08-21 22:58:33 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: supertech
caudlet
2007-08-22 09:35:46 UTC
Solved [was Re: supertech]
Jim DuBois
2007-08-22 22:04:25 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Solved [was Re: supertech]
Andy Wander
2007-08-23 12:27:52 UTC
RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Solved [was Re: supertech]
art
2007-08-23 20:33:05 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Solved [was Re: supertech]
jwettroth
2007-08-24 17:05:27 UTC
Re: supertech