Re: Swiss turning conversion
Posted by
dougrasmussen@c...
on 2001-04-25 10:07:23 UTC
Smoke,
One of the major drawbacks of roller bearing setups is chips get
pulled in under the rollers, plus they don't give full contact
support. A solid support of the bar is important to getting the
accuracies these machines are capable of.
The "standard" of the Swiss turning business is still the fixed (non-
rotating) carbide bushing. They look similiar to a collet except for
the carbide pads. Some swiss machines use a rotating guide bushing
(basically like the ID of a ball bearing), but those bushings are
incredibly expensive. Of course for hex and other non-round shapes
you would have to use a rotating bushing.
When I first looked at swiss machines I thought there must be a
better way than the fixed bushing. Apparently not, as yet no one has
come up with a workable solution that's better.
Doug
One of the major drawbacks of roller bearing setups is chips get
pulled in under the rollers, plus they don't give full contact
support. A solid support of the bar is important to getting the
accuracies these machines are capable of.
The "standard" of the Swiss turning business is still the fixed (non-
rotating) carbide bushing. They look similiar to a collet except for
the carbide pads. Some swiss machines use a rotating guide bushing
(basically like the ID of a ball bearing), but those bushings are
incredibly expensive. Of course for hex and other non-round shapes
you would have to use a rotating bushing.
When I first looked at swiss machines I thought there must be a
better way than the fixed bushing. Apparently not, as yet no one has
come up with a workable solution that's better.
Doug
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., "Smoke" <gordonr@r...> wrote:
> I like the roller bearing idea Jon , but...I'd use a scissors type
mount for
> the bearings similar to those available for doing knurling. I'd
replace one
> of the knurls with a pair of bearings and the other with a single
bearg.
> this would provide the 3 point contact. I'd also make it spring
loaded like
> the ones we made at school.
>
> Smoke
>
> >Since you just want to support the shaft, what about a pair of
roller
> >bearings opposite the tool with a third bearing heavily spring
loaded
> >into the other two? I made such a setup once, except it mounted to
the
> >toolpost. Had to turn 24" lengths of 1/2" nylon, worked like a
champ.
> >Actually it was a custom tool holder/bearing setup that went into
a tool
> >an Aloris tool holder. If I still have it, I'll snap a pic and
email it.
> >I'd think it wouldn't be too difficult to mount this rig to the
carraige
> >instead of the toolpost. It's easily adjustable, ball bearings
ought to
> >last a long time, and they're cheap. (compared to making throwaway
> >bushings)
> >
> >Keep in mind that you must either turn your part in one pass, or
you can
> >rough in steps roughly equal to something less than the distance
between
> >the support and the tool, and you won't be able to take a finish
pass.
> >
> >Jon
> >
Discussion Thread
stratton@m...
2001-04-24 19:13:57 UTC
Swiss turning conversion
dougrasmussen@c...
2001-04-24 19:35:23 UTC
Re: Swiss turning conversion
ptengin@a...
2001-04-24 19:46:59 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Swiss turning conversion
Jon Anderson
2001-04-24 20:07:29 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Swiss turning conversion
dougrasmussen@c...
2001-04-24 20:42:24 UTC
Re: Swiss turning conversion
dougrasmussen@c...
2001-04-24 21:09:36 UTC
Re: Swiss turning conversion
stratton@m...
2001-04-24 21:34:28 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Swiss turning conversion
Jon Anderson
2001-04-24 23:37:34 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Swiss turning conversion
Jon Anderson
2001-04-24 23:40:15 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Swiss turning conversion
Ian Wright
2001-04-25 01:39:32 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Swiss turning conversion
Sven Peter, TAD S.A.
2001-04-25 06:49:20 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Swiss turning conversion
Smoke
2001-04-25 07:35:04 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Swiss turning conversion
Jon Anderson
2001-04-25 08:55:30 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Swiss turning conversion
dougrasmussen@c...
2001-04-25 10:07:23 UTC
Re: Swiss turning conversion
Jon Anderson
2001-04-25 11:00:57 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Swiss turning conversion
Drew Rogge
2001-04-25 11:12:32 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Swiss turning conversion
Smoke
2001-04-25 11:27:15 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Swiss turning conversion
ptengin@a...
2001-04-25 14:14:43 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Swiss turning conversion
ballendo@y...
2001-04-25 22:21:09 UTC
Re: Swiss turning conversion
Chris Paine
2001-04-27 16:45:05 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Swiss turning conversion
Sven Peter, TAD S.A.
2001-04-27 20:48:30 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: Swiss turning conversion