Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Interface options, headless boxen, and remote control ...
Posted by
Larry Edington
on 2001-08-19 10:08:24 UTC
If it gets a DSP it will be a TI dsp. I've got several TI DSP development
boards and a buddy that
teaches TI DSP. While I much prefer Analog Devices DSP Assembly language as
TI's Assembly looks
like gobbledegook to me, I have more help available for the TI parts.
I've just got to figure out how the DSP will fit in and be utilized.
later,
Larry E.
boards and a buddy that
teaches TI DSP. While I much prefer Analog Devices DSP Assembly language as
TI's Assembly looks
like gobbledegook to me, I have more help available for the TI parts.
I've just got to figure out how the DSP will fit in and be utilized.
later,
Larry E.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos Guillermo" <carlos@...>
To: <CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 11:46 AM
Subject: RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Interface options, headless boxen, and remote
control ...
> Go for it, Larry! -
>
> I only have one suggestion, and that is to look at the TI
> TMS320LC2402 for your DSP. It has lots of on-board motion control
> capabilities for CHEAP. I think they were saying $3-4 in 1k qtys.
> They also have a flash version for $9.
>
> This takes you to the TMSLC2402A:
>
> http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/productfolder.jhtml?genericPartNumbe
> r=TMS320LC2402A
>
> This will take you to the product range page:
>
> http://dspvillage.ti.com/docs/catalog/misc/dspparatable.jhtml?fami
> lyID=322&_DARGS=%2Fdspvillage%2Fdocs%2Fcatalog%2Fmisc%2Fdsppfcrumb
> let.jhtml.3_A&_DAV=322
>
> HTH,
>
> Carlos Guillermo
> VERVE Engineering & Design
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Edington [mailto:ledington@...]
> Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 12:25 PM
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> Subject: Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Interface options, headless boxen,
> and remote control ...
>
> RS-422 / 485 is still a serial device. There's just so much you
> can do with
> a serial
> data stream with a UART or USRT that is decoded in the PC's I/O
> space when
> reading
> and writing to a device at the end of the pipe. I've designed
> motor
> controllers using
> RS-485 links with microcontrollers and they work great. But it's
> not a good
> design
> for a CNC control.
>
> I looked at microcontrollers hanging off a serial port. I even
> built one.
> Still it was
> too limited by the serial pipe. Plus you have to rewrite the code
> that's
> already been
> written to parse the G code and put the code to do the
> interpolation out in
> the micro.
>
> I don't care at all for the parallel port either.
> It's greatly limited and is a kludge for CNC due to the way it was
> designed
> for parallel
> printers back in the early 80's.
>
> A few years ago I designed an ISA card that provided a several 8
> bit ports
> and used a
> 37 pin connector like the Ahha card does. It used a simple PLD for
> address
> decoding.
> That was good for several axis of I/O but still was limited by the
> 37 pin
> connector. So
> I added another 25 pin internal ribbon cable connector and added a
> 25 pin
> slot mounted
> connector. It was still limited by the fact it was just a dumb
> I/O port.
> All the load is on
> the OS and host processor.
>
> I've been looking at this for a few years. ISA was the way to go.
> But those
> days are
> gone. ISA is a dead bus and is going away.
>
> Welcome to the world of PCI. There are PCI parallel multiport
> cards that
> could
> be used but you are still limited when you get into 4+ axis with
> full limit
> switches.
>
> I've been kicking around the idea of designing a PCI card to do
> CNC I/O
> with.
>
> So about a month ago, I decided to commit $$$ and time to it. The
> card will
> be a 32 bit PCI
> card with lots of on board memory for step buffer, timers,
> counters, encoder
> interfaces,
> spindle interfaces and lots of auxillary I/O. The design has been
> started
> and if all goes
> well, in a couple of months I'll have the first prototypes
> running. I'm
> thinking 6 axis but
> 8 axis might make it in there. It will support steppers as well as
> servos
> and could even
> be used to run steppers in closed loop mode with encoders.
>
> I'm also talking to a DSP guru buddy of mine about adding a DSP
> chip to it.
> I'm not a DSP expert but can see how an off board DSP could help
> in some
> of the calculations CNC requires.
>
> The PCI card will cable to a breakout box where all of the
> connections to
> the real
> world will be. I'm kicking around the idea of an optical interface
> to the
> breakout box.
> If not optical it'll be differential to the breakout box for noise
> immunity.
>
> I'm going to try to do it right. My hope is to end up with an
> interface with
> an open API
> that anyone that wants to can write code or drivers for that will
> be a
> viable interface
> for several years to come. But one that is affordable to build.
>
> Linux and EMC is not my first priority. I prefer Windows. But I'm
> sure I'll
> find someone that
> will be willing to write Linux drivers for it.
>
> If nothing else, I'll finally have the interface I have wanted for
> years.
>
> later,
> Larry E.
>
>
>
>
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2001-08-18 20:33:52 UTC
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2001-08-19 12:21:41 UTC
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