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Re: TANGENTIAL?

Posted by ballendo
on 2002-04-29 01:58:25 UTC
Hello,

Many controls "know" which direction they are "headed".

The arcTANgent gives this, even in "swept" arc algorithms... Add some
boundary checks and initialisation code and you can always know a
direction delta angle. This can then be used for tangential axis
moves and trajectory planning.

The EMC 274NGC interpreter contains a bit of code to deal with this.

FWIW, the free DanCAD3d download (www.metalworking.com) contains the
program DanPLOT, which supports the C axis required for tangential
cutting. I have to agree with Chris, that for all but small
letters/designs, the dragknife works nearly as well. But I don't know
where he gets them with holder for 100 bucks!

Hope this helps,

Ballendo

P.S. Dave, the errors are usually around the 0 degree position. (0
(up) and 270 (down) don't present any problem. Boundary checks
assumed.

--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., Dave Lantz <dlantz@a...> wrote:
> I just ran thru the BASIC math of it... and i believe i concure..
however
> you'd have to have everything in incrimental... EXEPT the
tangential axis..
> if i understand it right???
> because you'd need a X value and Y value of the next point to
calculate the
> angle, then do something like
> the TAN of theta = Y/X... and do some multiplication to derive the
steps of
> a steper into degrees (or radiuns... ug...)
> ???post processor???
>
> here is a thought.. what would happen if you go straight up or down
> (incremental X value of 0) aren't you going to have an error? you'd
need an
> exception stating that if x=0 then theta is 90 if y >0, or 270 if
y<0,
> right?
> ok... it also wouldn't know which direction to rotate to if Y=0
also...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: art [mailto:fenerty@h...]
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> Thanks Doug: (your checks in the mail)
>
> Wouldn't it be just a simple matter of calculating the next
trajectory
> direction and rotating the engraver knife to the right direction
prior to
> the move...of course, all arc's would have to be converted to
segments prior
> to doing this...
>
> Or is there something I'm missing here? Is a tangental cutter
just a
> rotational axis?
>
> Art
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Discussion Thread

Dave Lantz 2002-04-28 07:28:43 UTC [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] TANGENTIAL? Doug Harrison 2002-04-28 08:53:30 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] TANGENTIAL? art 2002-04-28 09:07:59 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] TANGENTIAL? Chris L 2002-04-28 09:26:56 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] TANGENTIAL? Dave Lantz 2002-04-28 09:34:33 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] TANGENTIAL? Doug Harrison 2002-04-28 09:38:43 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] TANGENTIAL? Doug Harrison 2002-04-28 10:38:49 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] TANGENTIAL? Shelbyville Design & Signworks 2002-04-28 10:45:13 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] TANGENTIAL? ballendo 2002-04-29 01:58:25 UTC Re: TANGENTIAL? Dave Lantz 2002-04-29 04:56:07 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: TANGENTIAL? CL 2002-04-29 05:46:17 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: TANGENTIAL? CL 2002-04-29 05:49:03 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: TANGENTIAL? Dave Lantz 2002-04-29 05:50:02 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: TANGENTIAL? batwings@i... 2002-04-29 06:16:33 UTC Modem? Dave Lantz 2002-04-29 06:30:57 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Modem? Stan Stocker 2002-04-29 07:07:12 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Modem? Bill Vance 2002-04-29 11:53:44 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Modem? CL 2002-04-29 12:51:49 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: TANGENTIAL? Alan Marconett KM6VV 2002-04-29 14:18:32 UTC Re: TANGENTIAL? Bruce Harper 2002-04-29 14:36:45 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Modem? Bill Vance 2002-04-29 15:53:52 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Modem? studleylee 2002-04-29 16:09:40 UTC Re: TANGENTIAL? studleylee 2002-04-29 16:11:47 UTC Re: TANGENTIAL? keongsan 2002-04-29 17:42:55 UTC Re: TANGENTIAL? Bob Campbell 2002-04-29 20:08:46 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: TANGENTIAL? CL 2002-04-30 05:58:51 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: TANGENTIAL? IMService 2002-04-30 07:45:32 UTC Re: RE: Re: TANGENTIAL? Paul N. 2002-04-30 09:14:40 UTC Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Re: TANGENTIAL? batwings@i... 2002-04-30 09:26:18 UTC unsub'd Bob Campbell 2002-05-01 18:18:48 UTC RE: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] cutting vinyl