Re: Heck of a time tuning servo motors.
Posted by
Erik Reikes
on 2002-10-10 00:30:57 UTC
Ok, So I tried a couple of things. I hooked up a 1.5VDC D cell
battery and the motor turned smoothly albeit slow. Not sure if that
is the be-all end-all test for cogginess in industrial versus servo
motors.
It is still sort of "stally" when turning the screws. Sometimes
depending on my gain and damping settings it will loudly "sing" and
draw a ton of current.
The lead screws are not "easy" to turn, but I can turn them with one
hand. To give an example of how tight I have them adjusted I
have .0025" backlash in the Y direction and about .004" in the X
direction (along the lathe axis). There is no measurable flex (best
I can measure is about 0.0002") in the gibs when I push on the table.
I am going to loosen things up tomorrow and see if I really just
don't have enough torque. This concerns me because when actually
cutting I often have a significant back pressure on the wheels.
I suppose there is still possibly a problem with cogging in the
motors themselves, but I'm not sure how to test for that condition.
Thanks in advance.
-Erik Reikes
battery and the motor turned smoothly albeit slow. Not sure if that
is the be-all end-all test for cogginess in industrial versus servo
motors.
It is still sort of "stally" when turning the screws. Sometimes
depending on my gain and damping settings it will loudly "sing" and
draw a ton of current.
The lead screws are not "easy" to turn, but I can turn them with one
hand. To give an example of how tight I have them adjusted I
have .0025" backlash in the Y direction and about .004" in the X
direction (along the lathe axis). There is no measurable flex (best
I can measure is about 0.0002") in the gibs when I push on the table.
I am going to loosen things up tomorrow and see if I really just
don't have enough torque. This concerns me because when actually
cutting I often have a significant back pressure on the wheels.
I suppose there is still possibly a problem with cogging in the
motors themselves, but I'm not sure how to test for that condition.
Thanks in advance.
-Erik Reikes
--- In CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO@y..., "Erik Reikes" <ereikes@r...> wrote:
> I'll just reply to all the replies at once to save nouse on the
list :
>
> MikeC :
> I figured as much power wise. It seemed like a lot of power. I
have
> run them with the pulley disconnected and it moves smoothly and
with
> a reasonable amount of torque (seems like). I'm not sure if I'd
say
> the handwheel is "free and easy" its not tough, but its not easy.
I
> have the gibs adjusted fairly tighly to eliminate slop. Also the
> anti-backlush nuts are a bit on the tight side. Next experiment
for
> tonigt will be to loosen the machine up and see how it performs.
>
> deanc500 :
> Not sure about whether they are industrial or servo. They had
double
> ended shafts and mounting position for encoders which I put on my
> self. I'll try the low voltage test with a D cell battery in a
> little bit. It does have symptoms consistent with sticjing at slow
> speed. Seems to buzz when slow, but low current and fine when
moving
> quickly.
>
> bill :
> Doesn't feel especially tight, but I'll try messing around a bit in
a
> sec. Figured I'd take a break and eat some food and veg out before
> attacking it again. The coupling is really just a set screw to a
> timing belt pulley. I'm not sure how that could be misaligned
enough
> to cuase a problem.
>
> Thanks for all the advice. I'll let you all know how it works out
as
> I know more.
>
> -Erik Reikes
Discussion Thread
Erik Reikes
2002-10-09 20:37:59 UTC
Heck of a time tuning servo motors.
MIKEC@W...
2002-10-09 21:55:43 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Heck of a time tuning servo motors.
deanc500
2002-10-09 22:19:36 UTC
Re: Heck of a time tuning servo motors.
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2002-10-09 23:00:12 UTC
Re: [CAD_CAM_EDM_DRO] Heck of a time tuning servo motors.
Erik Reikes
2002-10-09 23:27:03 UTC
Re: Heck of a time tuning servo motors.
Erik Reikes
2002-10-10 00:30:57 UTC
Re: Heck of a time tuning servo motors.
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2002-10-10 04:43:12 UTC
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2002-10-10 07:47:19 UTC
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2002-10-10 09:36:25 UTC
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2002-10-10 12:35:24 UTC
Re: Heck of a time tuning servo motors.
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2002-10-10 12:59:49 UTC
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Erik Reikes
2002-10-10 13:14:53 UTC
Re: Heck of a time tuning servo motors.
Erik Reikes
2002-10-10 15:11:00 UTC
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2002-10-10 16:21:54 UTC
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2002-10-10 18:39:30 UTC
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2002-10-10 23:31:34 UTC
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2002-10-11 22:06:07 UTC
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